Garry’s Mod to be sold through Steam
Garry’s Mod, the Source-powered physics sandbox famed across the games industry, is to be sold over Steam for $10 US (convert), with profits split 50/50 between Garry and his team of contributors and Valve. What is currently known as version 9.1 will lose its number and become the initial paid release, while the current version (9.04) will remain as a free demo. All updates will be free. The sanctioned selling of full, third-party mods is new territory for the games industry, and with no sign of Black Cat’s Alien Swarm: Infested it seems that Garry’s Mod will be the first to cross the line.
The practice has both its advantages and drawbacks, and I spoke to Garry to see where GMod falls among them.
The Deal
Straddling the line between genius and madness: ‘Asscrabs’.
“A new GMod with regular updates for $10″ is Garry’s summary of the deal for buyers. It’s the cheapest price point Valve maintain on Steam, and the same price as the voluntary donations that have bought keen players banners on scoreboards, enhanced forum features and beta access in the past – although, citing logistics and the gap between buying banners and games, Garry explains that those donators will have to pay again along with everyone else.
Garry also expects GMod to require an existing Source game in an account to be purchasable. It’s not an unreasonable condition considering what buyers would get for $10 otherwise, and interestingly it is his hope that the new version will be flexible enough to work with any Source game without developer input: “If you only have CSS”, he says, “it [would] recognise that…when Episode One is released GMod [would] realise that too and automatically mount the GCFs”. It’s only with the new technology in GMod 9.1 that this might be achieved, Source and Steam allowing: for instance, the new spawn menu has a configurable system of categories and filters from a base list of all of the resources available, and it will also automatically generate icons for anything spawnable, removing the need to produce icons for every object in the world, keep up with new releases, and worry about still not covering third party creations.
Community Concerns
Effects like motion blur are receiving a welcome update…if you pay.
Steam might be helpful in that scenario, but exposing GMod to a new pool of players and excluding those who can’t or won’t pay is going to put the community under significant strain, and what comes out when the dust settles will almost certainly be very different, even if that settling takes several months. Garry is optimistic on the matter. “PetitionOnline will probably explode,” he admits, “but eventually I think everyone will see that this is a great move”.
The litmus test of whether or not they do that will be the relative sizes and productivity of the paid and free communities. The two versions will not be compatible, 9.1 being the rewrite it is, and as time goes on the gap between each will grow. Will more people pay than drop out? Will the older credit card-holding audience be as drawn to GMod’s brilliantly silly, ad hoc gameplay? Will the new community without younger players be a better one? Garry certainly thinks so, but what will actually happen is anyone’s guess. The potential gentrification of an online game should be interesting to watch.
Development Changes
Selling the mod has had one particularly interesting and unusual effect: despite having no license, Garry will receive the uncompiled Source Engine code, blurring the line between a mod and full game as well as overcoming the limitations of the free SDK. While Valve’s increased take of the profits from each sale will eventually overtake the cost of a license, we are nevertheless seeing a new entry path for indie developers form, one where they can use Valve’s top-of-the-line game and communication technology without footing the usual bills, at least in any traditional sense.
What is it with people and enormous, fully-functional robots? Meet Tyrannis.
That’s a different story though. Garry’s Mod has a legacy of casual development which will have to change when Garry becomes accountable to his customers. GMod has evolved significantly in the past, something that can’t go on. “One of my original worries was that people would complain that they paid for it at version X…I’ll be restricted as to how much I can change”, Garry explains.
Another issue is related to Valve’s “hard line” on third-party content in official games. Every contributor to one is required to sign an agreement, putting the kibosh on any integration with garrysmod.org and seriously reducing the scope for bundling community-built content (as opposed to what is created by Garry’s small team), both today and in the foreseeable future. All the same, Garry is keen to share his wealth with those producing quality work. If he likes something someone has made enough he can offer them money to include it for everyone else – “something I’ve always wanted to do”, he says, and an intriguing prospect for those with imaginations and enough spare time. Steam’s upcoming Peer-to-Peer distribution system may or may not break the barrier down – more likely not, given its prominent ‘install’ button. We aren’t going to see any competition to Second Life just yet…
The Future
There is one final surprise. “I was pretty much done with GMod”, Garry says. “There was no reason for me to fix all the bugs (which required a whole lot of work). I planned to release a few bug/security fixes and leave it at that. This deal bought GMod back. There was a reason for me to work on it…the community wins that way”.
Garry’s Mod has been saved, but, quite literally, at a price. Or so it would seem. The actions and reactions of new and existing GMod players will define the success of these ‘pay-mods’ for some time to come, and I for one don’t think anyone can predict what will happen.
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389 Comments
Andy Simpson Says:
Woah. Well, this is going to divide opinion, that’s for sure. I’m… uneasy, about this. I’m surprised that the minimum transaction is $10, that seems a bit large. Certainly gives little scope for Steam-based microtransactions.
But if this move will support the further development of Garry’s mod that would otherwise not occur, that makes it seem less of an imposition.
Will be interesting to see if Garry does end up modifying the engine. Who knows, we could see LUA ending up being buried very deep in the engine. If it works well, maybe Valve might (try to) bring Garry on board.
Koraktor Says:
Ehrm sorry… source?
PS: Little late for jokes like that. :X
Cody Says:
I think that this is actually a great move for Garry. I know immeadiately that I will not be able to purchase this, but Garry definately has made a smart move. We DO need to give back to Garry, and we definately need more updates for GMod, well, at least, those of the GMod players who can pay for the retail version. But I will stick to 9.4, simply because i cannot purchase v10.0
nckomodo Says:
I think that this is a great move, and would be happy to buy this. The source code will certainly benefit gmod.
ryno5660 Says:
this is great. he has laboured for ove a year now, spending money out of his own pocket to create something for us, it’s time he got something back.
also, it will have a lot more possibilities with the source engine. $10? it’s a price i gladly pay. he deserves it, and so much more.
RP Says:
This is a step in some direction, good or bad, only time will tell I guess…
From one POV I think it’s an inevitable move, after all CS would’ve never become what it is today if it wasn’t bought by VALVe, at some point Gooseman and Cliffe would stop “wasting” thier time on fixing stuff and adding new content for no return.
Like Garry himself said, fixing bugs (even “small” ones) takes huge amount of time compared to what you actually get.
From other POV I see a problem that suddenly all the moders would attempt to charge money for thier mods, and this IMO where VALVe have to draw a line and set a limit for mods who want to charge money – Like lets say a 10,000 players base or something like that.
I think that every mod need to prove himself first before charging money for it.
I myself ain’t going to purchse it as I didn’t play it even when it was free (no offense garry, it’s just that sandbox mods ain’t exactly my “cup of tea”), but I think that garry has prove in the past that he knows what he’s doing and seeing the pictures of the upcoming version (the RTS stuff looks amazing) I can see this mod becoming more popular even than DoD.
Garry, I really wonder how much the money split between you and VALVe, I remmeber that in one of the interviews they said that 3rd party games (not mods) split 50-50 with them, is this the same in your case?
Tom Edwards Says:
Valve have a limit like that before they get ‘interested’. It’s not quite that high though!
James Harrison Says:
I’m very glad Garry’s taking this direction- it’ll definately support development.
I don’t know if the playerbase is gonna like this, but certainly the smarter ones are seeing the good side of this.
Shimi_Sniper Says:
I believe that Garry is making a step into a positive direction. However, I believe that this project will only compile a total of about $2500 (sorry, but why pay for something when you can play the “demo” for free)
Sean Kelly Says:
Its funny that I was suprised by this move when it should have been obvious from the start. Looking at the scope and scale of this Modification you can see that he has definetly put his heart and soul into this project. I personally love this mod and would gladly pay for further progress.
Nick 'Power-Mad' Johnson Says:
I am sad by this news. Unless garry is planning a HUGE and I mean HUGE change… I just don’t know what to say. Anyone who knows me on the forums as “Doomed Game Psychic” know I am a gold member. I paid to support garry’s mod, I paid to support garry, I paid because I thought this would never happen. Now everyone has to pay I guess…
Meh Says:
This is the worst thing Garry could do.
I’m sure that Gmod will have a Mingebag invasion.
RP Says:
1. $2500 is nothing, atm Gmod community is atleast 5,000 people (I belive it more closer 10,000 actually), and since it’ll be sold from STEAM which has a user base of over 5,000,000 I hardly belive only 250 people will buy a mod that has won pretty much every possible award a mod can win and got superb reviews.
2. At some point the difference between the current version of gmod (9.04) to the steam version (the one you’ll pay for) will be so big, it won’t just be the same thing but for free.
Not to mention that the new version will be much more stable and flexable.
Just look at some of the pics in this url, and if you know the current gmod you’ll see how big is the difference:
http://gmod.garry.tv/img/garrysmod/
timothy80 Says:
EVERONE SOULD RISE UP AND BE ON STRIKE WHAT GARRY HAS DONE
GARRY SAID HE WOULD **NEVER** MADE GAMERS PAY FOR GMOD THIS ALL VALVE FALT THIS STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UltimateApocalypse Says:
It’s just $10. If I had the choice of buying v10 right now for $50, then I would do it.
timothy80 Says:
YOU FAIL AT LIFE APOCALYPSE TEEHEE ^_^
Leelad Says:
As a long serving member of the Gmod community I echo the thoughts of many when I say that this was a given. I have loved every minute of seeing this mod grow and feel even more proud that a fellow brit has made it happen.
Superb move by VALVe and an even better one by Garry for running with it!
I can safely reassure everyone that this will be superb.
I know most of the guys helping Garry quite well. Honestly a superb team. “dav0rs” modeling, “jimbomcb” and “anders” Lua coding just some of the awesome talent going into making this more than worth £5.70
Jet What Says:
I think it stupid to charge. Sure there are alot of people who like Garry’s Mod, but what about those who have heard about it but dont own HL2? Your telling me that anyone who was interested in GMod b3fore this will need to pay 60 dollars just to play it? Thats alittle ridiculous. I would like to continue playing Gmod but im mostly likly not going to be able to buy it. I think its good that Garry will get some profit out of something he did on his own time but they should continue fixing the free version or ‘demo’ and just not add as much stuff.
SidiousX Says:
this is the most dumb thing garry has done.he said he doesnt wish to retail garrys mod. but nooo hes gotta get cocky and make us pay for it.what an ass
John Says:
Well this does take A LOT of people from the community, why doesn’t garry release 9.1 and make a new gmod to pay for? That way we get new FREE stuff while other people buy the better version, besides people without credit cards (like me) won’t be able to do anything to get gmod. So in other words, garry, this isn’t a very good move. But it’s not my choice.
Jeff Says:
I can’t say I’m fond of the idea either, but think about this for a second: if this move had not been made (and if what Garry claims is true) then you wouldn’t have had any more GMod updates anyway, and hence this move would not hurt you in any way. That alone justifies the reconsideration of his earlier position.
Obviously there could have been other avenues down which he could have gone (open-sourcing it and setting up a few prominent members of the community as quality control agents) but as far as I can tell, this is far from an outright betrayal of the community, as many seem to think.
(That’s not to say I like the Steam business model; that’s a topic for another day, that may well result on things catching on fire!
)
Watevaman Says:
I will proudly pay for my copy of Gmod(10), especially since it’s only $10. That’s not that bad, people, especially for a mod that will be as great as this.
EasyBakeOven Says:
I hardly play gmod as it is. I can’t see me paying for it. The game has no goal and for someone like that takes away from it.
ben5015se Says:
lua wrecked gmod…
Flynn Says:
Garry shouldnt make people pay for Gmod! its a mod created with the source engine and they would be violating one of the rules that you cant make profit with a mod! Terrible move if so.
Nick 'Power-Mad' Johnson Says:
I drop ALL hate I have on htis after reading thorugh and reading this:
“Garry will receive the uncompiled Source Engine code, blurring the lines between a mod and full game as well as overcoming the limitations of the free SDK.”
Garry isn’t charging us for the same thing, he’s giving us stuff more stable that just wasn’t possible on past SDK. I thought he was just charging for his mod and doing waht’s possible on current SDK.
Biglikeox Says:
Garry is getting the source code.So legaly he has every right to sell it.(To the poster above)
Nick 'Power-Mad' Johnson Says:
Of coarse he does, and I support him if htisis what it takes to give us new content. I am personally excited and have my $10’s ready.
[JMC]ck Says:
that is the gays it thing i eve heard becos mod or for free and all the sodint this hell no i am not paying (olny if it is beatter )
XeroShift Says:
God some people are such whiners. It’s ten fucking bucks. Not that much. If that’s too much for you really need to think about geting a job. Atleast he iss still keeping the current version avaible for free. He should atleast get something out of spending all this time on the mod.
“I think it stupid to charge. Sure there are alot of people who like Garry’s Mod, but what about those who have heard about it but dont own HL2?” Um…I’m pretty sure that even with the free version you need HL2 It’s a mod.
x.x Says:
Well i think this is retarted, charging for a mod that is good?… people bought hl2 for mostly the MODS that were suppose to come out, not to purchase more stuff..Greedy..
whats next? charing us for materials? Mabye us modelers and mappers should get paid then? they are the one that rule the game.. they keep it alive, without the props gmod would just be plain and lame!
hater Says:
What the hell? This is retarded. I hope garry dies of cancer.
Fuck Garry Says:
NONONONONONONONONONONON WhY? WHYYYYYYYYY?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Noodles Says:
I do not know why everybody is badmouthing Garry or steam. I personally think that this will be a good thing. Since Garry is working with steam now, using Gmod may be alot easier. And now anything Steam release may be automatically usable for Gmod which is gonna be a great for people like me who don’t know how to use other mods models.
I hope Steam and Garry do well from this.
Nick 'Power-Mad' Johnson Says:
Dude, this is waht it takes. We can now work and script lua ingame, rather than hitting windows everytime your script fails you. You now have a far greater interface, a model warper, tons more flexabuility in lua, a physics gun that can pick up NPC’s, hell, even minigames available:
http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=golftest00292dk.jpg
So stop whinning, garry’s making hte best of what he’s got.
Nick 'Power-Mad' Johnson Says:
Oh, and you can freakin draw on the world in 3d! This offers tons of artpad like possabuilitys.
http://gmod.garry.tv/img/garrysmod/17_MAR_2006/golf_test0002.jpg
^Retards Says:
I dont play gmod but I realized something…Which is people that play it can’t spell. No wonder none of you can afford it.
Examples:
1:Of coarse he does, and I support him if htisis what it takes to give us new content. I am personally excited and have my $10’s ready.
2:Well the first example was the worst I saw, so I didn’t bother checking for others…
alex Says:
to flynn:
umm not making profit from a mod?….. css, dods, condition zero. i think that rule went along time ago.
also i hop noone buys his stuff that theiving little cunt.
ChaosLord (from GMod forums) Says:
WTH THIS IS STUPID GARRY JUST BROKE HIS WORD TO ALL OF US! KTHXBAI!
Kalashnikov Says:
Personally, I see a fair amount of flaws with this move. Valve is going to make an exception with GMod by not making them purchase a license and then allowing them to sell it over STEAM. This is a really bad play in the mod community because it professionalizes it even further, pushing modders who want to do it for fun out of the circle and putting up banners attracting those who want payback and re-imbursement for their time: the latter being the ultimately wrong reason for modding.
I am fearful that this is going to become a step in the wrong direction, as players will simply refuse to pay and just stick with the older, still completely great versions. This comes down to playing a mod that is being made for profit, and one that someone’s heart and soul have gone into with no request for compensation.
John Says:
Is this serious? This isn’t a joke, right?
WaLLy3K Says:
I’d be more than happy to pay for this, mainly to support Garry and the great work he’s done on this mod, but also because there will be a lot less morons in the servers.
Daniel Says:
Developing a fun mod takes alot of time and work; almost any programmer who has used a language like C++ should know that . Garry certainly deserves more than a pat on the back for his hard work. Anyone who reads the whole article, not just the title, will see that this is the better of two options. I will welcome a less buggy, frequently updated garry’s mod so parting with $10 is fine with me. And for all you 10-year-olds who can’t spell, ask your damn parents to use their credit card.
Awaken Says:
I dont have a credit card but I will buy it somehow. This mod is (from Machinima maker point of view) unbeatable and 10 bucks is nothing for this. Great move, Garry.
Akronation Says:
depending on the amount of new features garry puts into the game, it may be worth that 6 quid…
Happydevil Says:
Well I make Garry’s Mod Comics under the name of Happydevil, and I just want to know if all my custom models, skins and maps won’t have to be installed again. I’ve got too much Custom stuff to go download again.
Nick 'Power-Mad' Johnson Says:
In reply to the “Gmodders can’t spell”, sorry I don’t take time to write a novel for you all. This isn’t even a forum, it’s a “leave your comment here” thing.
Garry wouldn’t be able to advance gmod any futher. This version here is it, garry has touched the limits of source SDK. To break this, he has bought the engine rights to make his own game.
This doesn’t come free though, so there for, Garry has to sell it. What you’re playing now is the extent of what free-ness gives you. Enjoy it but sooner or later, you’ll want to move on, and that step is just $10 away.
Friend Says:
I wish to support Garry as far as that he makes enough money to live comfortably for a few years before contracting cancer and falling into a pit of despondence.
Lane Says:
$10 a person for the hundreds of hours of work this guy put into a mod? I don’t really see how its unfair… then again I don’t personally like the mod and I didn’t use more than once while it was free. Best of luck to him and his new revenue.
ShocknAwe Says:
What i don’t understand is, how does he get the “uncompiled Source Engine code” without having to pay a License Fee like every other commercial developer?
We’re talking about the source code here, yes?
If I were one of the other commercial devs who paid big money for the same code, i’d be… agitated.
ShocknAwe Says:
oh, and will the GMod Horse Armor add-on cost an extra $1.99?
Robert Says:
Well $10 seems like a fair price. I mean Garry has made Garry’s Mod for free. It’s the least we can owe him. I’ll buy it but I have to see how new it changed.
We The Peopl (Formerly jlulian38) Says:
I’ve played Gmod for a long time now. I LOVE The Mod. I bet a lot of you people do too. So here are MY thoughts on this.
Think about it, Right now Gmod is over run by 12 year olds who just want to make stupid sex poses or something like that. If you have to pay, a large portion of the MingeBags will vanish into thin air.
Another thing is, you know how VALVe keeps fucking up Gmod right now? Well this will end if they’re making a profit off of the game.
As it has been said before, Garry gets the full Uncompiled Source code. This means he has access to EVERY portion of Half life 2, this means that he can allow mini-mod and Lua scripters to access far more features of the Source Engine. Just Guess what that means. All these Lua mods now are great yes, but in the future they will become MUCH better.
Oh and in response to the Gmodders can’t spell thing, this is the internet after all, and only people who bother to use the backspace button really type well.
Not Actually Garry Says:
Everyone that replies ‘Garry is gay’ needs to step back and realize who they’re talking to. I’m the new guy on the block, I have power. Don’t oppose me, or you could end up as another HL2World.com
seunghoon Says:
oh no…
Raptor73 Says:
Why the hell is everyone complaining about having to pay? Gmod wasn’t going to go beyond the 9.0.4 patch anyway, so by charging for it the mod has been revived. If you don’t want to pay then just play version 9. Stop complaining about $10 measly dollars. The new version is obviously going to be better, but you still get a damn good deal with version 9, an awesome mod without having to pay a cent. Garry has put alot of effort into this mod, he deserves to get a little back, even if he did promise not to charge for it. Promises are made to be broken anyway.
GoodNoodle Says:
Horray! This is great news! GMod is really going to be something great, now!
Asskicker Says:
Will there still be a free version? Cauz i aint gonne pay for that mod …
Dave Says:
Wow, I totally agree with Klashnikov, this is a bad step in the wrong direction
Sgt Doom Says:
Go Garry! About time you got something back for all the work you’ve done. All you people who whine about this, think.
Did YOU make the mod? No.
Did YOU spend most or all of your free time tracking down bugs and adding new features? No.
Do YOU have any right to say what Garry can do with HIS mod? No.
As Garry had now full access to the source code, it’s going to be MUCH more stable and you can bet newer Steam updates are less likely to fuck it up.
Cazull Says:
Awesome move! I hope sweps, Entities, Lua Script’s, and other minimods, that use the already existing material in the source engine wont be effected by this new content restriction.
Would this also mean that maybe garry and his band of merry banners would have to lighten up on their load of punisments, and take up more friendly guidlines when it comes to help and support for his mod?
This bold new move bring up more questions then I can think of. I hope all goes well, and that we get more of a playerbase than we did before. I can’t wait to get this. I hope garry gives us a release date soon.
Tom Edwards Says:
I don’t see how that follows. The fact that mods are going up on Steam isn’t going to somehow reduce the scope for traditional mods’ release.
Garry will ultimately pay far more than any licensed dev through Valve’s higher cut of his profits.
Spanners Says:
This is a good move for Garry, for ages he has made this mod and got nothing back in return. This way he gets something for his efforts, and Valve get to pocket a little something too. Good for them ^-^
The price of it will not bother me too much. I work in an internet caffe and I’m seriously hoping that garry’s mod will be included in our subscription!
~Spanners
Tom Edwards Says:
AFAIK everything on Steam is included in a cybercafe subscription.
David Says:
“The sanctioned selling of full, third-party mods is new territory for the games industry”
Lets not forget Counter-Strike..
Spanners Says:
Sounds good to me then, I’ll be able to play it and get the updates, and so will our customers. I’m happy.
I think there should be some system for these comments whereby if a person posts in all caps, or uses the word “Gay” anywhere in their post, they get a wedgie.
Would solve all these haters…
Live with it people!
~Spanners
NakedSnake Says:
We haven’t already given to Garry by filling his forum with things made with his mod? For fucks sake!
Tom Edwards Says:
That’s slightly different. It was bought up by Valve and made one of their products, while GMod is still entirely owned by Garry.
Spoco Says:
I’m very happy with the price and I would gladly pay the price for it. But I don’t have a credit card and there’s no other payment options.
hahnchen Says:
Anyone who thinks the community will shrink because of this is entirely wrong. There’s going to be an assload of people out there who have never heard of Garry’s Mod, and this is going to shove it in their faces.
The community’s going to get larger, although it might be a very different one to what you have right now. I’ve never played Gmod, although I’ve seen the countless Google Videos and POTDs of their poses.
I’m not going to buy a contentless sandbox modification, no. But a good many thousand will, and Garry deserves some cash, although mostly for his counter-strike humour site, which rocked.
Decipher Says:
Counter-Strike: Source doesn’t require HL2 to be installed in order for it to work, therefore it’s not a mod anymore. It’s not even third party anymore since it was absorbed by Valve.
I personally won’t be buying Gmod. It’s a shame too. I love the mod. I was really looking forward to the new features. Garry was already making money buy charging for the forum features, so this is just getting greedy. Besides, the whole reason I bought HL2 was for the huge number of FREE mods. Now my current favourite is no longer free, and other mods will almost certainly try to work towards charging. This move could ruin the mod community as we know it.
Anonymous Says:
Garry sold out.
Cmon man, Communism.
DaveP Says:
It’s gmod, but not as we know it.
Aurastorm Says:
Alot of you do not see the logic in this move. Garry is working on his other game too, and needs money to keep it running. This is simply like doing a paper round or a part-time job when you’re a kid to get something for 20$. Garry had no choice but to do this, so we couldn’t have prevented it anyway. And plus, it’s only 10$. If you can’t afford that there was no point in buying HL2 inthe first place. This may actually be a revolution in the modding community, it will push people to make better mods just so that they can make a bit of cash out of them. Understand?
lemon-Demon Says:
$10 (about £6-£8 inc. vat)
I would pay that for it!!! BUT i would like to see quite a few screenshots/ videos to show that it is worth it.
zalifer Says:
well, $10 is not bad really, considering you get to play the whole game in G-mod style, with all the crazy antics you can get up to. plus it can be used as a tool for making stuff in Hammer and for creating many types of game. it really is a whole entertainment package.
sadly, i have no access to a credit card, so i will lose out on the joy of G-mod, which i have used since the first, perhaps a version on a disk? i would pay $30 dollars for the game if i got it in a simple plastic box, with no manual…..
CJL Says:
Good lucky with Garry, I hope the move helps pay your bills.
I hope it works for Garry, persoanlly I am not sure why someone would want to pay $10 for it but thats becuase I have never really undertsood why people use it other than to poser figures to make 3D HL2 artwork.
I also think its expensive when compared to compete games you can buy through steam, that have rerquire much more work and offer much more.
Anyway, Good luck and the Gmod community I hope this test bed works well for all involved and the mod gets the support it should get now its a consummer product.
Larry Says:
*cough*
For all those people who can’t afford roughly £5, you are poor. And I laugh at you. HAHAHAHAHA.
Good for you Garry, it’s time we paid you back.
And all the little kids wont be able to make shitting comics!
Hurray! No more shitty comics!
Trigger- Says:
I will pay for it. Professionalizing the modders scene is a good way of making the the community demand better mods. Garrys mod fit valve description of a mod from day one. Constant updates and promotion give gmod 2 thumbs up. Garry paid his dues now PAY him…
MisterM Says:
You guys are sad, Your so bloody poor you can’t afford 5 quid for one mod, Christ get a job, Or save up your low life pocket money, Great things will come from this!
Legion (Ahl2mod.net) Says:
Personally I think this is the best path for GMod. I mean, think of it. All the 9-10 year-olds minging around the servers, deleting your shit and replacing it with millions of chimneys. Do you honestly think they have credit cards? Hehe, NO! They’ll, for the most part, be ALL GONE!
No more minges, many more features, and all done through the power of commercialization and the code for the Source Engine.
It opens a whole new way for gmod to be developed. Embrace it.
Film11 Says:
Hmm. It isn’t that we don’t have the money, it’s that Steam offers so limited options of payment. I have a debit card yet that isn’t accepted. I would pay for it, hell, give me a PayPal link so I can get the new one, AND updates and I would gladly pay it. However, I feel that this may leave people who have previously donated but who cannot pay for it now in the dark with an outdated version that is doomed to become useless.
Legion (Ahl2mod.net) Says:
Just see if your parents will let you borrow their mastercard or something.
Random Hero Says:
#51, hahahaaha.
I was definately shocked when I read that I would have to pay for the new version of Gmod. I still think that I will pay my $13. I realise how much time and effort Garry has put into it, and dont mind the small purchase for such a versatile piece of software.
ARGH Says:
I am… sooooo gonna shoot you in the head for doing that…
earthHunter Says:
I don’t understand why everyone badmouths Garry for this. He made major improvements to the mod and is selling it for ONLY $10. He’s let you play up to V9.0.4 without having to pay anything. He didn’t have to make GMod so don’t badmouth him for making the new gmod cost.
VoltDenatsu Says:
Stupid damn prices, I hate Valve. I thought it was a few months ago when I heard “Garry’s Mod will never be sold”, but I suppose it was just illuminating the path for us to finance Steam even further. I’m beginning to dislike Steam morally, this is almost free money for them. I’m not going to ‘badmouth’ Garry, but I’m rather annoyed at having to pay 10$ on something.
Tom Edwards Says:
It’s Valve, not Steam, and considering that GMod is piggybacking on their content AND technology it’s a very reasonable price.
LoA Says:
As a fellow moder for the last 10 years i have to say great job allthough i do not play this game i think its a good thing,people have no idea how much time shlubs like me put into moding this dude busted his A** to bring somthing to the comunity that he or they love. i mod novalogic game engines and hell they want to review your mod and give approval before its played in public,total nazis. hats off to stream for hooking a guy and his team up and hats off to the gmod guys for geting it done.
Madcow Says:
This, sucks.
Do I need to say more? :/
L33t Masta Says:
You impertanent fuck. GMOD is NOT worth paying for. When you finall get your greedy head ou of your fucking ASS, come back and make it free.
_-=MAUS=-_ Says:
Biggest mistake they’ll ever make . . .
_________________
Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand
I don’t care, I’m still free. You can’t take the sky from me
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain’t comin’ back
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can’t take the sky from me
Me Says:
After reading some of these vicious attacks on Garry, I’m glad he has done this. $10 is a small price to pay to play GMod without smacktards. Also, Garry owes you people NOTHING. It’s his mod, and he can do whatever he wants with it. I say good for him.
As for those attacking him, grow up, get outside, and try to get some exercise.
_-=MAUS=-_ Says:
This is the ugliest sabotage ever , instead of making their fans happy and producing as much good an free stuff as they can ,they are charging people like mad and fucking with there patience!
My honest oppinion is that Gmod was Valve’s mod all along !
Dont you see, GARRY is a one man team , i bet he is a ghost and doesn’t even exist or if it exists hes a meber of valve along side with other team staff from valve that had this plan going from strart!
I say dont buy the game even if it will be only 1$ because if you will then were are shooting ourselves in the foot by starting a new age where mods will be sold !
Mods Should Stay Free and made by fans with interest of making a good project not making good money, thats why some mods exeed the game they were built on because they are made with passion and excitement and not for the hunger of money ,shit this sucks
Screw you Gabe…Valve…And Sadly…Garry
Joshinator Says:
I will buy this, i feel that you will get ypur money worth after a while as it continuosly updates. But the thing is, 9.1 better be really good with lots of new and exciting propects otherwise people wont think twice about buying it.
Joshinator
THGhost Says:
Garry’s gone mad. Honestly, totally mad.
Matt Says:
That sonofabitch better have good reason for this.
BOB Says:
lucky for Garry but unlucky for us cheap people :-p I wouldn’t support this buying unless Garry’s mod has better support in their forums mods and selections. More tutorials and functions. Also, if they provide the worlds longest list of ragdolls, vehicle, and maps mods nicely organized for once! then would i buy it. Lastly, tweak the multiplayer as its patheticly laggy when people try single player together
Tom Edwards Says:
Right here.
morgan smith Says:
no way garry no freakin way!! no no no no no no no burn in hell!
Mister Anon Says:
Maybe if we pay ten bucks for whatever version of GMod this’ll be, the level of support will improve and the gold-members/moderators/Illuminati will quit being such anal retentive pricks towards any normal forum member.
hahnchen Says:
Most of the comments here are just retarded. Awards to worst comments go to MAUS and 133t masta.
Why should everyone continue getting stuff for free? Garry could just abandon his mod right now, and no one would have the right to even complain. What does Garry owe you? He’s provided a tool that people have loved for free.
And now he’s going to charge for it, what, he’s somehow this hate figure? Because he’s no longer going to give things away for free? What the fuck? You call Garry a greedy bastard for wanting a source of income and yet you balk at the price of paying for something which has obviously given you a lot of enjoyment and entertainment?
And these petty stupid “threats” and “warnings” about the community falling to pieces? Do you really think it will? Do you not think that the inflow of new players is not going to make up for the “Fuck this, the world owes me. I should get everything for free” crowd?
$10 is the price of 2 magazines, 2 mcdonald’s meals or a bad covers album by an unknown artist in the bargain bin of a motorway service station. Instead of gorging yourself on 2 Big Macs, just buy the fricking game if you like it.
I’m not going to buy it, but that’s because I don’t want a sandbox mod. Not because I think everything should be free in some weird communist experiment where we’re all kings.
morgan smith Says:
when will it be avalable
Erik Says:
NO! NOT GARRY’S MOD!
Steam is a bastard program, as is Valve. They take all my old prized games that I got for free and they make me pay for it. What about the people that downloaded it before it was bought? What about those who embraced the updates?
Steam will be putting out new updates every 5 days, not like Garry’s updates that actually did something noticeable and didn’t waste your time downloading fixes for bugs you didn’t care about.
I am NOT re-downloading a game I downloaded months ago simply because it is “NEW AND IMPROVED LOLZ!!!!1111!!2″ because I do NOT want it. I didn’t want to update CS:S again, so now I dont play it. Half-Life 2 pissed me off with the updates, so now it just sits there rotting. I play Garry’s Mod EXCLUSIVELY.
Keep it free. Keep it steam-free. Keep it small. Keep it fun.
Cheshire Says:
I think this was a good call on Garry’s part, his mod will get more exposure, and maybee he’ll even get a little money back from all the time and hard work he put in. I for one will be purchasing this product, and can’t wait to see where he takes it next.
David Russell Says:
This is despite the guy promising in a recent interview that he would not charge money for Garry’s Mod (he said something along the lines of ‘the damage it would do to the community wouldn’t be worth it’). Someone wanting to make money out of their work is fine, someone lying through their teeth is not.
BioWeapon Says:
$10 is nothing. It’s like what you pay for about 2 meals at fast food places. It’s not like it’s taking a big chunk out of your wallet, seriously.
From what I’ve seen of what he’s working on, it looks a lot more polished and stable. I’d pay $10 if it meant I didn’t have to worry about crazy garbled text and random crashes.
It’s $10. You spend more on food in a single day.
TheBlackViper Says:
I’m a gold member on garrys forums, a big contributer to gmod, and a loyal player, but this has just crossed the line. I have donated about a total of $40 to garry through various means, donating for goldmembership and buying ingame avatars for a whole bunch of gmod players. It is really unfair, I love the game and I admire his work, but I will only pay so much for something like this. It is awful greedy of him to charge people who have already payed him MORE than what the new Gmod costs in goldmember donations AGAIN. Sure, whatever, I’m not some death to Gmod person now, but I think I have to cross the line somewhere, I will only pay so much to one person whom I don’t even personally know. I hope garry does well with this desision, but I know that I won’t be one of the people that buys it.
Tom Edwards Says:
That was actually done three or four months ago. Since then the source code offer has come up.
Nick 'Power-Mad' Johnson Says:
I think a lot of problems stir up from people thinking their money’s going to nothing but garry’s greedy ways.
He isn’t throwing on charges just for his profit, thogh that’s probably a lot of his reason.
He threw it on because he paid for rights to make this a full steam game. Meaning he has power to bend source engine beyond what normal modding can do.
hahnchen Says:
Users like TheBlackViper have a very good reason to be pissed off, but I have a feeling that most who are complaining here, don’t.
You fail.
seb Says:
Well, thats a surprise. Valve the big commersial machine. They suck bigtime. Piece of crap. Hope Gabe get so much money he eats himslelf to the death.
potty Says:
I think this move will change everything. Mods that went commerical before, such as the original CS and DoD, were still available for free with the purchase of Half-Life. Sure, $10 is not a lot to pay but think about what will happen in the future. Any mod that becomes popular will be charged $10? Soon, the dollars will add up.
I feel that this move will have nothing but negative reprecussions on the modding community.
^Ben Says:
Lawl, some of the people in here seriously need to take their mouths off of their mothers teet.
“oooooo waaaaaaah! Valve sucks, they just provided the base for GMOD to begin with, but waaaaaaa they update their games and so they suck waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!”
Don’t start pointing fingers at people, especially Valve. Do you know how much a Source license costs? A 50/50 holy shit thats a fucking great deal for Garry. They have also enabled the continued development of GMOD, etc etc, you still get to play the old versions for free so stop your bitching or whip out your mummys credit cards and poney up the $10 or shut the f*ck up.
Just remember kids, it’s cool to bash Valve who give us so much, and now the new target will become Garry because he his time to us.
I know most of people wetting their pantys have no idea of what work is worth because they still live at home with their parents, but a programmer wage for an hour is way over $10 and how many hours has Garry put into this mod for you little whiny bitches? A lot more than you guys get flipping burgers at McDonalds.
GG L2P
We The Peopl (Still formerly jlulian38) Says:
VALVe will not be updating Gmod itself, Garry will find the bugs fix said bugs and send the updates to VALVe. Only if a VALVe worker (Technically Garry even) finds a bug and fixes it will VALVe itself be making updates. Also Garrys Mod (New name I suoposse) despite having it’s Own GCF won’t be a huge stinking pile of Rotting Game Cache like CS:S is. It will be updated yes often, but the updates will fix some of the bugs.
SO JUST FUCKING SHUT UP YOU WHINING LITTLE 12 YEAR OLDS!
GO TO A FUCKING 7-11 AND BUY A VISA GIFT CARD. THEN GO FUCKING BUY GMOD AND SEE HOW MUCH BETTER YOU LIKE IT!
mentalSte Says:
Nice too see that Garys mod is making pennys
myself i think that all third party mods should be free to anyone with hl2. But then thats just me 
Zorre Says:
I agree with Kalashnikov and the Black Mesa modding community.
This will probably destory many many mods to come that would have willingly been created by many different people, as they may seek to have money for their mod. Once they’re knocked back, they’re pretty much angered, and may just give up. I sincerely hope this does not happen to Black Mesa Mod.
Legion (Ahl2mod.net) Says:
Guys, stop whining. He was going to quit working on gmod had this great offer with the source code not come up. Take your pick, no gmod, or a $10 gmod.
SoldjahBoy Says:
Money is the root of all evil….
TheOrg Says:
It’s kinda sad that some people do not read any of the comments stating points, lets try some:
The article clearly states that GMod *Garry’s Mod* Was not going to see any updates and Garry himself had no prospects*plans, ideas* for any new updates.
This means that without this deal YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ANY NEW GMOD! Sure he was working on 9.1, but you know when that would’ve come out before he had this deal? IN A LONG ASS TIME. Such a long ass time that you would still BITCH about your FREE game NOT updating. Now your game will be PAY $10 to play, a ONE TIME payment. AND you game WILL UPDATE and NOT CRASH and HAVE MORE SUPPORT of the Steam platform.
I mean, $10 for More Updates, More Stability, More Support, and maybe even longer lasting erections *results may vary*
If you’re poor, stop bitching and stop using the internet, save money.
If you don’t have a credit card, or a bank that issues a Debit card that can be used for credit, go purchase a Visa Gift Card or some similar Gift Credit Card object.
If you’re a whiney bastard who doesn’t want to pay for a mod and is too cheap to support something you like, and rather bitch about it, that is your porrogative. But remember a second point:
CURRENT version of GMOD will STAY FREE, so you can do whatever you have been doing, STILL FOR FREE. So stop bitching and spamming up comment boards. Get a job, and get laid.
Soviet UK Says:
No motherfucking way. We have supported garrys mod ever since the beginning. Our unwavering loyalty should be enough for gmod to continue as a FREE 3rd party mod. The fact we will have to pay for updates makes me sick. Makes me think what kind of capitalist greed has slowly infected our gaming. Suddenly its all about the money. I expect this kind of franchising from EA games. But NOT from the modding community.
Me Says:
I wonder how many of these retards are playing pirated versions of HL2?
The MAZZTer Says:
The moment the purchase option appears on Steam I’m ordering. This is a great mod and I’m happy to support garry with a few $$$.
Only reason I didn’t really go for GMod gold membership was because I don’t have Paypal (and never will, seeing some of their less-than-golden moments).
Random Hero Says:
You know I’m not so sure you guys can read very well. If you COULD, you would have noticed that Garry was “pretty much done with Gmod” and that “this deal brought it back”. SO, even if Garry hadn’t made this deal with VALVe, we would still be using v9.04 or v9.05 at the most.
And for gods sake, if you dont want to pay, dont pay! You can keep on playing v9.04 and the rest of us will be enjoying the extra features, support and stability of 9.1 (or whatever its called). So can all you guys quit complaining about how “gay” or “retarded” Garry is? Cut him a break. It’s not the end of the world, jeez.
Mod's should be free Says:
I just heard…trees and plants have signed up with Valve.
They now want to capitalize on all the hard work they do in supplying all that oxygen to us humans. Breathing will now be payable through Steam, for only a nominal fee. (credit cards only).
This move will enable trees and plants to develop an improved version, “Oxygen 1.1″.
If we do not pay, production of “Oxygen” will cease.
Anyone trying to offer “Oxygen 1.0″ for free, modified or not, will now be sued for copyright infringement.
Valve will be paid half of the revenue generated.
dominic rudkin Says:
garry…
you’ve sold out. you had a nice community going, you were helping the spread of cheap games, and now youve gone and ruined it
i hereby boycott steam and all its products. anyone care to join?
Mr. Chris Says:
Well look who is selling out!
Concerned Says:
I think Garry is doing well here, but I don’t want it to start making every mod out there be $20. I’ve been playing GMod since its humble beginnings, when everybody thought JBMod was far better. I’m glad that the community will probably be better for this, but I don’t like how a lot of people are saying that just because someone is underage that they are necissarily more mingey. I have never personally minged anything, comics, servers, whatever, and I am 13. I will gladly buy GMod if it is better, but please, just because someone is 13 doesn’t mean they only do sex poses, they can be responsible. I hate people that think just because they’re fully grown that they’re so much better than younger people. Please, everybody, age isn’t the problem. How people say that it is, is the problem.
BioWeapon Says:
Okay you people are seriously retarded. You have the nerve to call Garry greedy? Honestly. That’s pretty low. I think it’s pretty greedy to demand someone to keep giving you something for free. Seriously. You people aren’t thinking at all. Why should he do what you say? You’re not a customer of his, you’re using his free mod. You’re in no position to make demands. Valve isn’t being greedy either. They’re a company. NEWS FLASH: The whole point of a business is to make money! We’re not communists! Sure, it’s easy money for them. Can you blame them? And it’s not like they’re just using Garry. He’s going to get a lot out of it too. Just as much as Valve, except it will mean more to him. You should be happy for Garry. He turned a simple hobby into something extremely successful for him. It is extremely selfish to expect him to give it to you for free, just because it’s a mod. What are you giving him? Nothing but demands.
DeadlyContagion Says:
Well, this WOULD be worth it if GMod became some kind of real time editor, and from the looks of the screens from some of the forum posts, that would be possible. I myself am a modder, and yes it is incredibly hard to make even the simplest of mods, it takes an incredible ammount of effort, time, and dedication, it’s not like Garry could whip up something like GMod in a matter of minutes, and I personally am glad to see GMod develop and grow beyond the free mod stage, I wish Garry the best of luck, and I’d be willing to pay, provided that Garry signifigantly improves his game, and adds more than simple “cool features”.
Exactlay Says:
What does “Garry’s mod” provide in the fields of new content? The content is what really takes time (and money) to develop.
Sgt Doom (From the GMOD forums) Says:
122: Unwavering loyalty? BAH! That’s only because Gmod’s only competitor is dead.
If it’s not worth paying, don’t buy it you fucking retard.
I’ll repeat what I said:
Did any of YOU put your money, time and skills into the making of this mod? NO!
Did YOU put up with the abuse that he got when he forst showed Garry’s mod V1 on the Steampowered forums and perist to make the best mod ever? NO!
Do you have ANY right as to say what direction the mod goes? NO!
So shut the fuck up!
He didn’t have to make the mod, he didn’t have to update it with loads of cool stuff. But he does.
G3RM@N-$#3P#3RD Says:
I’m sorry if I am gonna post a negative reply… but here it goes:
I don’t think that Gmod should be in order basis. You said you’re gonna make Gmod free FOREVER! Sure, some people will be able to pay $10 for your [ahem] mod. But many people wants it to be free.
When you do this, you’ll completely ABANDON the free v9.04 version of your free mod.
You should not deprive other people who cannot pay $10 to use your work. All your income should come from voluntary donations ONLY.
You’re completely AMATEUR and CAPITALISTIC. A great programmer won’t put a price tag for his works, especially if his works are dependent on another work.
Maybe you are like Valve, a company that is bound to fail anytime because they deprived non-internet or non-broadband users from their games on which I see is an action that is completely UNNECESSARY.
G3RM@N-$#3P#3RD Says:
$10 ain’t cheap. Especially when you live in a third world country. What’s happening to you, Garry! You will lead your development to a total destruction.
Sure you have more than 5000 supporters but not all will be willing to pay for your mod. Community development will stop because of your action and you’ll only make yourself $10 richer.
Your actions are FUTILE…
Tom Edwards Says:
That’s in a traditional mod, where the content is the centrepiece and the code is just the framework. That isn’t the case here.
Clintonio Says:
I like this move, guaranteed I won’t be able to buy straight away
But this way we will have LESS mingebags, less rubbish servers. I will need to be less strict. And manybe we will get real builders..!
I am happy with this. Only poor people and mingebags will post agains’t this “OmG2″!1!1 No MovrE Pizzing Ppl 0ff in da GMod”! With0ut punihsment!10.o”
Sputnik53 Says:
No no no. Maybe providing through Steam but not with payment! And if this comes with payment I’d like to buy it from a local shop not throught Steam.
Nath Says:
Well i’m sorry, but as much as i wouldn’t mind paying for gmod, garry did say he would never make gamers pay for this. and Plus it’s in american dollars, i live in england so i have no idea what i’m paying and how they will figure it… Can someone help me?
wizpig64 Says:
Nath, there’s a link to convert from USD up at the top of the article.
Well, it’s official. Garry’s Mod is the next Counter-Strike. The next Day of Defeat. I’ve got to say I’m actually excited. Before today, I would have had a fit if I had known GMod was to be sold, especially after Garry himself promising it would never happen. But with the licence for Source’s source, I think I would probably pay $20 for the new version (and the next versions). Any news on the release date? I need to find some money by then.
SkAzZ Says:
Ok, I would like to mention… only about 180 servers on gmod… most of which are not active, this shows that, no – not many people will buy it, I consider but quite frankly.. Gary and his team don’t have patients for people even on their forums, very bad attitude, and i doubt they will drop it, so the community that will developed from the paid version of grays mod, will they get banned for little things?
Will they get banned for not starting their topic with a capital letter?
I hardly see it to be a community if Gary and his team don’t understand the mind of his, past fans, but now paying customers at all and doesn’t seam to give them respect and i doubt that will change.
SkAzZ
hahnchen Says:
If the Garry’s mod community is currently made up of stupid fuckwits like dominic rudkin up above, then maybe it’s good that some of these won’t buy the mod.
If you can afford a PC which can run HL2, then $10 is cheap, no matter which country you’re in.
Why the fuck shouldn’t he? I don’t even use Garrys Mod, and I’m not going to buy it. But what have you given GarrysMod, child? If you don’t give him anything, then he can do what he likes, he doesn’t owe you a thing. Just read your post, you lunatic comments against capitalism and the stupid quote that programmers don’t put a price on their works. Yes they fucking do, walk into a shop, do they have them in soviet russia? I don’t even believe that I’ve spent the time to even reply to your ignorant post. You don’t deserve everything for free, and seeing the attitude you take when something is given to you for free, I really think you should just stop using free stuff.
Ptad Says:
FANTASTIC MORE MONEY = MORE MOTIVATION TO IMPROVE THE MOD
except…
…. i feel so sorry for the people the community will loose.
hope u can afford it ppl
John Galt Says:
Aren’t you people ashamed to demand that this man continue to labor for your benefit while you give nothing back to him? You are not simply asking that he allow you to keep what he has given you–the original version is still free–you are demanding of him that he continue to create better versions for you, and spit in his face for suggesting a trade of his effort for your money. One would think that if someone were generous enough to provide you with something you valued, and charged you nothing for it, that you would be grateful. Instead, you demand more from him.
I hope that Garry will charge for his mod what the market will bear. After seeing the responses here, what programmer could decide that it is in his interests to create anything for you people pro bono? And what right do you have to demand from anyone that they do? Think about that as you rail against a man who has done you nothing but good.
Soviet UK Says:
And what do you mean, “we dont have a say”
Without us gmod would be nothing. It would be like “gmod, wtf is that?”
Istead of “Oh yeah, gmod, lets go play.”
would all those bands be heard of if the fans wernt there?
Same with gmod, it would never be as good without the fans.
Leeroy Says:
You really think that is only going to cost $10. Thats $10 EVERY update. Ive donated fuckloads because I like the mod, I donate what I can when I can afford it. But now this retail thing says to me “Fuck you all, now you will all pay or not play.”
DiSTuRbEd Says:
Oh we’ve got a know-it-all here, you are very wrong, have you seen any of VALVe’s other games charge for updates? Or hell any of the games they host charge for updates? Get the hint yet? Yeah shut up and quit spreading lies.
hahnchen Says:
145.
You supported the mod because you liked it and it gave you a lot of enjoyment and entertainment value. It’s a 2 way street, break even. Garry owes you squat.
Sgt Doom (From the GMOD forums) Says:
If yo can afford a computer, an internet connection and HL2, I see no reason why $10 is soo much. You’re all a bunch of freeloaders, that’s what it is. You’ve contributed NOTHING to the construction of the mod, you all just insult him because he wants fair pay for his work. I’m willing to bet that a lot of the whiners here have a pirated version of HL2.
krichmar Says:
if ten dollars seems like a large amount of money to give a developer, chances are mommy and daddy still pay for your lunchables.
Macacan Says:
I don’t see this as a very good move for Garry. The majority of Gmod players are too young to own a credit card, so the effort that will be going into this will probably cost more than the money Garry is gaining.
Also, Valve are pretty much ripping Garry off on this as they haven’t put much effort into it and are recieving half of the profits. A 75/25 split would be much more appropriate, if any at all.
adrian Says:
i personally like the idea now we can have much b better features adn maybe less crashes when we push gmod to the limit
Effer Vest Says:
I am playing the violin for all of the whiners here.
You don’t have a right to use Gary’s Mod for free, but he’s nice enough to still offer a no-pay version. If I were him I’d make it ALL pay and screw the whiners who can’t be arsed to come up with ten bucks but who demand Mommy and Daddy buy them the latest Air Jordans and puffy jackets.
Effer Vest Says:
G3RM@N say:
Many people want their cars to be free, but we all gotta pay. Funny how the world works.
Why? Because you say so? It’s HIS work, so he can do as he likes. Don’t like his choice? Don’t support him. And tough beanies for you.
A great programmer is defined by his skills at coding, not by his choice of business model. You just want to play with his ball without paying him. Leech.
RP Says:
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I’m really suprised that some people have ZERO understanding of the buissness world, and suprise when stuff aren’t given for free.
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(I hope I got the quote thing right, if not can someone please explain how on earth do I use this XHTML shit??)
RedLink Says:
We’ll I could easily pay just to support Garry since this is the BEST written/clean mod ever.
Wizpig64 Says:
Just because the majority of GMod users don’t have credit cards themselves doesn’t mean they can’t find one. Heck, I don’t have one, but I can always slip my dad the $10 and then put his card through Steam. No big deal.
steven Says:
people people… settle down why are you guys yelling and screaming its like a rebellion now. garry did a little bad thing he did promise us i agree but then i want to know if the garrysmod is something like world of warcraft where you have to pay for every hour you play it. i hope garry knows whats hes doing. one side is angry one side is happy some big ass rebellion.
steven Says:
i got a idea why not valve and steam. put it on stores across worldwide it would be another great idea instead of using online paying. i purchased my halflife 2 at stores why not you put it on stores instead of web thats what people are going nuts thats one reason but theres more.
We The Peopl (Still formerly jlulian38) Says:
Garry had a reason to be Strict on FP, if he wasn’t then it would have turned into a bunch of little kids yelling at eachother.
steven Says:
whoops i havent read all the comments. i think this is going to be one big diaster. garrys mod will be just like dod and cs i wonder if theres a gmod source. but still its going to be nuts and nuts. i think later on gmod would be on some halflife 2 game pack or something. i know what is garrys doing now i just figured it out. garrys first step was to make mods of his games to see if anyone likes it second step is to sell em. third gets better and better
fourth The last piece of gmod the source. i dont think gmod 9.04v would be on later 10 years or 5 years.
Dude Says:
I do support Garrys Mod but isn’t the donation option on the site enough?
A *LOT* of people will still play the current version and refuse to buy the new one, Garry can PARTIALLY make up for this by including a LOT of new content and fix ALL bugs and bring many new ideas (e.g. the ability to make your own movies, via skins, models, etc and control the animation and EVERYTHING, if it can beat The Movies game, good).
Random Hero Says:
#134
If you can afford to buy a computer AND HL2 then you can definately afford to pay $10.
Random Hero Says:
Sorry bout double post but steven, what the fuck are you talking about.
Xtr Says:
Truthfully I never really expected to ever have to pay for a mod such as this , though much work has gone into it – I though openly would pay for Facewound (garry’s game in progress) , Kinda weird to have a game fully based on community (not there for competition) to become retail
sFsadf Says:
Wow, this sucks. I know im not paying $10 for a mod. Maybe something like $3. I will just get it from somewhere else or not get it at all..
CaveMan Says:
garrys mod should be charged for yes, but steam shouldn’t get 50% of the profit, mayb 70 for gary and 30 for steam, but i aint gonna buy if since steam gets so much
olivehehe Says:
Does anyone remember the good old days when you could browse through the internet, find a good mod, and just download and play? No $10, no steam, no valve trying to make more money. It WAS that simple. It doesn’t seem like much now, but eventually you’ll go out to buy a game for $50, then come home, beat it a week later, then because you want something different you’ll need to spend another $50 on mods. It’s pathetic. Valve and Steam could ruin the modding community forever…
Phoenix Man Says:
Will you morons shut the hell up?
1. Garry himself stated that GMOD was already dying; Steam allowed him to continue, though at a price. If this didn’t happen, GMOD would get one more update before it’d completely die out.
2. The current version will still be free. Although the new versions have more features, if you want them you can buy them. Garry said GMOD will always be free; well, that version is free, and there’s only a “PRO version”.
3. (Another Generic) Random Hero is right; if you can afford to spend lots of money on parts for your computer and buy HL2, surely you can spend $10. Although I do agree: there are some players (like me) who don’t live in the US and can’t pay them directly and have to go through their parents. In that case: get them in line.
Phoenix Man Says:
And one more thing:
The current version shouldn’t be a demo per-se. It should be a fully-functional version as it is now (if you’re going to try to force people to download a lite version you’ll lose as many will put up a download site or such). That way, the current version can still be used to connect to other servers. Of course, not the servers from 0.9.1!
olivehehe Says:
Just to add to my last post, although I disagree with the idea of paying for mods, this could be both good and bad. On one side you get every kid who thinks changing the damage on a few weapons makes a mod thinking he/she deserves $10. On the other side though, you get quality stuff like Dystopia and Gmod finally getting something in return for their work that isn’t just a comment from some guy saying “wh0a dis mod is teh H4XX0RZZZZ”. Still think mods should stay free though…
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DiSTuRbEd Says:
“Still think mods should stay free though…”
It’s not a mod now though, he can access to change this around that he couldn’t before.
Kaido Says:
Garry, you wanna do this; go right ahead.
I look forward to seeing its initial release, I look forward to seeing what next shall be brought to the drawing board.
Hey, it’s good to know one person working on something for VALVe is English. Heh.
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ReaperSWE Says:
Oh shutup you whiners. If you think about it, it’s worth way more than $10, I’d give about $16 for it.
What you recive?
– Completly re-written code and more stability.
– Free updates.
– Loads of new features.
– Even more stuff to customize for your own preference.
Do I need to say more? No.
This is what we owe him.
Benedict_Ham Says:
Garry is in charge of it all, so he has every right to put a price on it. If you were in his position, I bet you’d do the exact same thing. Whining won’t get you anywhere, after all, what have you contributed to it?
Sita Says:
As a long time Gmod fan, I have mixed feelings. I worry that by supporting a pay-for Gmod, as well as pay for Oblivion mods, I would be encouraging piecemeal content distribution.
However at the same time, knowing what Gmod is and all the time I’ve spent playing with it, I think it’s WELL worth $10 if things like physics crashes and lag are fixed. I mean obviously Garry might not choose to do a whole lot with the source, I just hope that he “sees the light” of what having the source code truly means and takes Gmod to that next level.
Mortal Says:
Ah, I’m most likely gonna buy it. I agree with Reaper, because when he gets the Source License he is able to do everything, and he’ll even pass that ability on to the Lua-coders, including myself. $10 is a price I will gladly pay for lots and lots of development options and lots of minigames.
It is also changed a lot; DEADBEEF, AndyVincent, Anders and the others are making wonders with the new options in Lua programming; it has nearly come to the same level as what you get when you create a mod with the free Source SDK.
Grimsy Says:
Erm… Is thes for real? Well, of COURSE I will buy it, but… Why? Why make one of the greatest, FREE mods cost 10$? Seriously, the only thing that is good in this move is good towards the devs (Garry etc.)…unless the frequent update thingy is going to actually WORK. But still… it’s a shock, at least.
1bad966spdz Says:
Well I have no idea what Gary’s mod is..And this is why… I have the game on my computer. It is on my pc that does not have access to the internet…Though payed fully.. I still can not play the game.. so sits there for months at end with absoultely no usage..It comes a point to where HAVING TO JUMP THROUGH TOO MANY HOOPS actually takes away from the game.. My pc is hooked up to a 11 foot screen by 6 foot.And is projected by a high resolution projector 1280X1024 resolution..Would have been nice to have played it once or twice on it… AS far as I’m concerned.. I will NEVER buy anything that has STEAM or VALVE on it again…Awesome game…But just too many hoops……In My opinion..
Dryer Lint Says:
I think Garry is an idiot. If this is released on Steam than a bunch of idiots will be coming in to servers and deleting all my stuff.
In a way I feel that Steam is becoming eBaum’sworld.com in that its main way of making money is through other people’s work.
gorganan Says:
To #74 I agree with most of what you have to say, but this happened to counter-strike and it hasn’t been such a revolution. It actually had the opposite effect. After counter-strike gained so much attention, mods were beginning to compete with it. The competition was fierce, mods were cropping up left and right, and every fanboy had his favorite. But like many industries before it, what goes up must come down. Cs went retail, many fans felt betrayed and even stopped playing. Mods that felt they had to compete, were now either dying, or just not seeming Counter-strikey enough. The community had seen another rise in mods shortly after however, that began the infamous cs rip off game that many of us know today. Mods began to copy cs’s simple formula and fans began to notice. Mods that used a buy menu to purchase weapons, or round based gameplay were immediately called a cs rip off. The mods being released seemed all the same, not at all different. THis is what ultimately killed modding communities.
What does that have to with anything? Well plenty, we have to learn from the past, cs collectively killed modding. During its modtime Garry’s Mod revolutionized it, but we can’t forget what cs did. Hopefully that doesnt happen.
MAUS Says:
Screw you VALVE,GARRY,GABE THE FAT-ASS, Somebody acctually kill Gabe Since he’s the one that made “steam” the 3d party “program” piece of crap…and 10 euros for Garry’s Mod? Hell No , Maybe at the store but at steam? NO!!!!!!!!
wizpig64 Says:
Hmm…. Isn’t this happening already?
It’s not 10 euros, it’s 10 US dollars. 10.00 USD=8.21074 EUR. And hey, sure Gabe is overweight, has he denied that? I can still look up to him as someone in the industry that can be innovative and creative. I really don’t understand how people can flame someone who made the very game they are still playing almost a year and a half after its release.
E. Nonee Moose Says:
How much you want to bet that GMod is eventually bundled with retail Valve releases?
Elizium Says:
Wow, what a bunch of whining little children.
Here’s a small team of people who spent a significant amount of their personal time on a project that has garnered critical acclaim and apparently thousands of happy users. Now, because they’re finally going to be rewarded for that, a bunch of you insignificant forum-flaming maggots want to sit around and whine about it. Waaaa, I want everything for free. Well, you’ll still get it for free. Meanwhile, those of us with a clue will slap down the $10 and get a better, updated version with new toys to play with.
I’m going to buy it, and you know why?
ultra54 Says:
Why would I pay for something that when I downloaded when it was free, I couldn,t figure out what the hell you are supposed to do with it?
Tom Edwards Says:
You may have noticed that GMod is built on Valve’s technology and art, and is nothing without them. 50/50 is Garry’s license to use six years of Valve’s hard work in making himself a profit.
Killa1234569 Says:
Oh we’ve got a know-it-all here, you are very wrong, have you seen any of VALVe’s other games charge for updates? Or hell any of the games they host charge for updates? Get the hint yet? Yeah shut up and quit spreading lies.
I asked garry and he said there would be no cost for any updates and 10$ is WICKED worth it!
Boris Says:
That would be the ignition for the community to copy GMod.
I always wonder why people who get money for work others do for free tend to expect even more money.
I wonder what garry wants to do to justify 10$.
Choronzon Says:
The fact that people would be able to sell thier Source mods via Steam was announced long before HL2 ever came out so why is everyone so shocked? Personally I think it IS a bad thing and if we are foolish enough to buy into it then it is we who will pay the price in the long run.
It won’t be long before mods for every game going will be demanding a fee.Where will that leave sites like this one and the entire Filesnetwork? Pretty soon the big guns like EA will be muscling in and demanding modders get a release asap and we’ll end up with downloadable doo doo.
The time to make a stand is RIGHT NOW. Let’s nip this in the bud before it grows into a monster. If modders are in it for the money rather than for the love of doing it then let them go work on a “proper” game. Mods are one of the few perks left for us PC gamers so let’s not end up with a system of “micro-payments” like Xbox 360 otherwise our investment in our machine of choice will have been for nothing. As for the improvements mooted by Garry, the only thing preventing those improvements already is Valve and they will not co-operate with a modder without there being something in it for them because they don’t give a **** about us or even the modders themselves.
Some of you have stated things like “jeez it’s only $10 stop whining” but can’t you see,it’s the principal of the whole thing. Whether it’s $1 or $100 makes no difference.The ammount of (brilliant) work that has gone into the mod makes no difference.mods have always been for free and made for the love of it and that is the way it should stay.
I fear for the future.
Cya Garry spend your 30 pieces of silver carefully now.
Fuzzy Says:
I fail to see how you came to this conclusion. Do you not understand the amount of downloadable doo doo there is out in the mod scene right now?
Point is, in the HL2 mod scene therre are only a handful of mods released. Plan of Attack was the first mod out and it’s the first on the “released but no longer in dev” list.
To create something like Garry’s mod and POA you need to invest a huge amount of time and effort. Real jobs and life in general get in the way of this. Rent and food continue to cost money.
Eventually all modders are faced with a choice; continue doing this for free, get a job and thus cut into the time you can work on your mod or become your own boss and continue doing what you love doing.
Everyone has to sit back and realise that having Garry working on GMod full time will result in a higher quality release. That’s the exact opposite of downloadable doo doo.
Allowing mods to be sold over Steam creates a whole new path into professional game development, that neatly side steps those companies which you list. You want me to feel bad for publishers? What do we get for 80% the price of a game in a retail box.
Tom Edwards Says:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the fact that some people are selling their work does not mean everyone else has to do the same. Mod teams have bought engine licenses in the past and done exactly what is happening now; this move just breaks down a barrier.
Fuzzy Says:
Tom’s on the money.
I like this definition of value: “the amount (of money or goods or services) that is considered to be a fair equivalent for something else.”
And it’s an answer that each individual will have an answer for. Will you pay $10 for gmod?
Based on his supporters I think enough people say “say” to make it a good thing.
FireWater Says:
Why would I pay 10$ to be bored?
Robo-Jesus Says:
i hate u all. all of u.
u r pathetic stupid pricks.
and garry and valve and steam but mainly u.
not 1 person has mentioned anything directly about a retail version that all the ppl that dont have credit cards which is most of the gmod community can buy.
if u have not got a credit cardd MYTHER ur parents or just drop out with all the other noobs but we need 1337s in the community
10 dollars is worth it but we should not have 2 pay 4 it anyway its tight especcially on the gold members and garry needs 2 sort his life out. if i was him id get a holiday 4 a week or 2 and come back ready 4 some more scripting crap.
and 4 any1 who cares im 12 and never spammed chimneys in my life so eat that nooby agest gays.
i thought that garry would at least make it so its easyer 4 ppl 2 get hold of and when i get it – which i will i am not looking forward 2 the mingebag invasion.
if it is possible every1 should campain 4 there freinds who may never be able 2 play gmod again as it is the ppl who have stuck with it who r too young 2 have a credit card
i would also like 2 say i am the jesus on these forums so s.t.f.u. any1 else with jesus in there name.
Choronzon Says:
That’s exactly what Trauma Studios did.After creating the awesome Desert Combat Mod for Battlefield 1942.Instead of giving up or asking for cash, they got real jobs and made a real game.Namely Battlefield 2 (After Digital Illusions bought them out,Victor Kyam style) and they had the balls to take the plunge and create something new,rather than sell out.Charging money for a mod is just WRONG.
EA currently publish the retail (boxed) version of HL2 and are now usind Valve’s Steam technology in thier EA Downloader service so any talk of Steam mods “side stepping” the publishers is simply wrong.EA have bought a MASSIVE piece of Valve even if no-one will admit to it (yet)
Face facts. EA now owns Garry’s ass.
Fuzzy Says:
Yeah, and what happened to Truma the minute BF2 went gold? They got canned.
I’m sure they bet they wish they could have kept working with out a publisher over them.
As for you saying that EA now own Garry, go read about the deal. EA distribute Valve’s titles in the retail market. Valve self publish over Steam.
I don’t see how EA licensing Valve’s tech shows that they now “own” them. I see that it’s basically EA admitting that they’re being the game and need to ride on Valve’s great tech and head start in the online distro market….
cyNickal Says:
I’m really unsure which way to go on this…
Developing things for free would require one hell of a temperment on such a scale as a hobby fanatic. To re-develop certain aspects in order to remove bugs that i’d be happy with for nothing (or very little in return) would bore me to death and kill my hobby.
Getting paid to do my hobby might get my ass in gear…
Having asked community members to PAY in order to support his work and become ‘gold members’ was one way to do things and i couldn’t argue with this. All people had the choice to voluntarily pay or not to pay and Garry gets his rewards.
Now that he’s making EVERYONE pay… that makes me cringe. I feel phuck-sorry for all those ‘Gold Members’ that paid to support Garrys’ work and are now being pretty much FORCED to pay AGAIN for something that they’ve already PAID for.
Garry, in my opinion, should offer to refund the money to ALL ‘Gold Members’ if he wishes to avoid having his name burned with shame.
I can’t argue against the selling of this Modification, Gary wants rewards and he should get. Although Gary should offer back the money to all the ‘Gold Members’ so that they can re-pay, if they wish to, in order to re-support with little extra cash out of their wallets. Yes it is only 10$ to some people. If, however, you’ve already paid to support something once why should you be made to pay for it again?
I’m still unsure how i feel about this…
I could babble all night but i won’t, nn folks!
Random Hero Says:
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I’m glad you cleared that up about your age. I thought you were 6.
bigburpco Says:
It was needed.
Teaqu Says:
I would gladly pay.. even triple.. if this gonna be so great as he tells then i glady pay tipple of $10 and it will be around 300-400 DDK (in denmark it’s the same as a full game like.. like HL2-GOTY)
he deservers every support he can get!!!
peaople might say i’m crazy… Teaqu means Dead-Crazy so..
anyways i just can’t wait till it coms out.. and money he will get
Garry, i would love to talk to you one day. just for 10 min.
you have a special place on the game-dev list!
$30, you think you can use that???
Teaqu Says:
lol i was wrong
$30 is something close to 182 DDK
d00d Says:
THIS IS FUCKING CRAP! IM NOT PAYING SHIT! I’l stay with v 9 thank you…
Orland Says:
Well. If I have to pay for a mod i really enjoy. I’ll do it. But i would have to disagree with the decision to put a price on it. This is a mod and should stay a mod. Mod’s are free, not payed for alright. Got it. That’s all I’m Saying. . .
PS. THIS IS SOME BULL SH*T!!!! I DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR A FREAKING MOD OKAY?!
Ron Says:
This is just plain stupid. Garry made his mod. IF he ever wanted to sell it, which I can see. HE DESERVES ALL THE PROFITS! VALVE DIDN’T DO SHIT TOWARDS GMOD EXCEPT MAKE THE SOURCE ENGINGE. In which case, they’re giving out for free. Hence, garry deserves all profits IF he ever wanted to sell gmod.
Ron Says:
What’s worse is valve will probably take over it and no one will be able to make minimods and maps and new models and shit.
Chris Says:
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Heh…we will be going back to replacing skins..just like how everyone is replacing the css hostage skin to nude alyx O_O
mblunk Says:
This is something I was hoping for. That’s right, hoping for. Why? Because, with Garry’s steady cash flow, he will have a much greater motivation to please us all. He will make GMod live on, because without doing this, Garry’s Mod will have lived then died. Charging for it may make it more popular, and Garry will try to keep his income up by making people say things like “Get Gmod, It’s just $10 even though it’s worth so much more.” Thus, making more people excited about it, improving his cash flow, making him want to impress us all even more yet. This is NOT the end of Gmod, this is the end of Gmod as we know it. This is the START of Gmod with nearly endless possibilities because Garry has the source code in his hands, and he’ll have motivation to make sure that it’s great from the income he’ll have.
X-MING-X Says:
As someone who has worked in the games industry for 13 years i think its great to see someone breakthrough and get paid for their work. most games released by the industry are crap, unimaginative branded fodder because big companies arent interested in taking risks on concepts like sandbox games (trust me i know ive been sitting in the boardroom when these decisions are made) if gamers want good stuff they should support the people who make it and although everyone loves flaming valve the fact is they have done more for the modding community than any other company i can think of so dont make them out to be evil ubercorporation thay are actually more on the side of the gamers than any other company. the best point of steam is to make games cheaper for gamers WHY do i say that ? well when you buy a game in a shop the games company sells you a fancy box with your game and charges gamers about $20 extra for it!!! I beleive gamers want games not fancy packaging so why should they pay for it?
All the time garrys put in deserves a reward. As for the people who wont or cant pay well, they should understand better than anyone why hes trying to get some money out of his work cos money is MORE important in the REAL world than virtual praise on the internet. and if he didnt get paid for his game development he would probably have to get a boring job as a database programmer or something and what a shame that would be. Im sure he wants a flash car and a mansion full of bitches as much as the rest of us so maybe this his chance !! good luck to him and gmod,
Rebellion Says:
Oh god. What has steam and valve done?
garry said himself he would never charge us.
Its fair, i know, but….
Darn it steam, you gonna give like 50 cents to garry and give the rest to valve….
Mr. X Says:
Garry,
No matter what anyone else says, I believe that you have done the right thing. Making this deal with Valve will give you more freedom to do what you want with Gmod because you have the sourcecode. I will pay the $10 and think that when people calm down they will too. Thank you for keeping some of Gmod free but it is time for Gmod to move on to better things!
Mr.X
Mr. X Says:
PS-
You deserve this.
Ragnarok Says:
I will gladly pay your 10 dollars today for a better Gmod tomorrow. I give you props for finally realizing that when you have to pay for something you a. drive away all the tards that spam the game and b. you actually have the initiative to do updates and -sortof- keep the people happy
mingebag killer Says:
Friggin hell. This is da worst! Garrys mod was something i played more than hl2. and now im gonna be stuck with da old version…
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danny Says:
HAHAHAHHA MAN I LOVE GMOD I THINK I’LL BUY 2 COPIES JUST SO GARRY CAN GET A FULL PROFIT
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND I HOPE YOU MAKE ALOT OF MONEY!
Sam Green Says:
This is a pretty bad move. But it’s ok because he does need money to make the mod better, and more enjoyable for us. But there is a disadvantage for me as i live in U.K. and it is hard ordering over steam.
wizpig64 Says:
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Yes but back then there wasn’t a Steam-like platform to sell the game on. The only way to make money from it was for Valve to buy it. Now that Steam is here, mod makers can sell their own games, while Valve still gets a bit of cash.
I hope everyone realizes that this will not start a “omg ima make a mod and sell it for ten bux lolz kekeke” craze. A mod has to achieve the fan base big enough to ensure a profit after the X-Million dollers it will cost the dev team. Dystopia or could make it I think.
ViralHatred Says:
Those that complain about it will get left behind. So long suckers! Pay or miss out
Bunzi Says:
Over here its about 15 dollars. (aussie) I will most likely be paying for it, well my parents but i would pay them back, cose I have no credit card of my own. Gary has done something many of you nay-sayers will never be able to do. If he wants to put a price tag on it, no big deal. Hell, he could have made it 5 dollars and many of you would still complain about his promise about not making it retail. I’m sure you all have kept every promise you made, espcially one made to hundreds, if not, thousands of people.
Leave him alone, the last thing he needs is 200 kids sending hate-mail about how they can’t annoy people on the internet because a mean man made them pay ten dollars, for a product he has spent numerous hours and countless days on.
I’ll be glad to send him my money because I know it wont be going to waste. Remember it is our way of saying thank you to him and praising Gary for this mod turned game.
Spike Says:
If you people keep complaining about a measley $10, then get your asses up and get a job. $10 is very reasonable, and Garry deserves a bit of profit for what he’s put up with.
whitey_mcgee Says:
so is it goning to be ten dollars per update?
Tom Edwards Says:
Please read the first paragraph. Thanks.
teh grim Says:
I used to respect Garry for creating the best mod ever for a game but why oh why spit in the face of your loving fans.
ps
>>WE LOVE YOU GARRY DON’T BECOME A FUCKING SELLOUT
Sgt Doom Says:
#226 bullshit. You only love Garry for working his ass off for cheapskates like yourself. But when he wants something in return which he RIGHTLY DESERVES, you whine and flame and bitch. $10 is NOTHING.
pSyONiDe Says:
This is the best thing that can happen! He gets the real source-source, that means gmod gets to be a damn lot less buggy!
I’d pay for it, I’d pay a few times.
Thanks to Steam and Garry, gmod is resurected!
SDWBOSS Says:
Ah yes, you say $10… but what about the thousands of under-18 players out there? I’m sure garry does deserve a reward, and the first thing I installed after re-formatting my pc was hl2 and garry’s mod 9.04. However, I think that this move will leave many players such as myself out in the cold untill we are able to pay for it ourselves (It must be v embarrassing to be able to drive and run a car, but not pay $10 for a mod due to no credit card).
Of course, I suppose that we will still have 9.04 and possibly third-party updates to use untill that time comes…
Ultimate100 Says:
All i wanna say to steam is that they dont have to buy every lovely mod, and make money out of them!
I actually hate steam for that, my opinion
FluffySK Says:
Guys just have fun alright?
whats the whole point of games? to buy them and.. you know play and have fun who cares i would pay if Garry wants a bit of dough and i think he deserves some dough after all that scripting and stuff
although theres like this negative side too i guess where other mods might look down and go “we should charge too when we got famous and sell it to steam lolrofflelol” so yeah
srsly dont get stressed out ppl swearing and stuff it’s just $10 lol $10 for entertainment, i’d buy and Garry right, seems like a nice guy, serving a community you know, and like we should really respect that, not always you know focusing on ourselves right but to help out other ppl at least through money to grow stronger as a gaming community right?
not though in idea of communism or stuff right sif wtf is about communism Garry just wants a lit’ you know donations and seriously if you were Garry wouldnt you know want something in return? after all that hard effort Garry has to go through i strongly believe that he deserves some credit
like think about it through Garry we got like comic makers which are like so funny especially phw lol and like videos, media release you know it all adds up, he REALLY deserves some credit so itll be considerate if people gives some respect to Garry and give him something in return yes?
From a small voice, Fluffy
SDWBOSS Says:
Yes you are right. After thinking about it, I have come to the conclusion that it is well within Garry’s right, and interests to sell Garyys Mod. I will just have to nag my parents for the use of their credit card
. is Garry staying on the project though? I hope that valve doesn’t ruin this mod, although after playing Half-Life 2 I have faith in their artistic abilities.
DeltaOps101 Says:
This is the best thing that could possibly happen to Gmod. Garry, now having the Source Code, will be able to add SO much more to Gmod. And, with the income from it, he will have to motivation to keep making it better. With Valve supporting this, Gmod will be risen from the slum that it’s in. What more could anybody ask for?
CrazyChicken Says:
When I first read that Garry’s Mod would now be a commercial program I was a little pissed. After a few minutes of trying to find out more info on the matter, I calmed down quite a bit I seen what the deal had entitled Garry, who by all means deserves profit for his work. If you were to put in thousands of hours on a project and only get paid by donations for your efforts, then were offered a chance to improve on quality of your work with a free copy of the Uncompiled Source Code. I myself wouldn’t mind a copy of the source engine myself. Garry has put in to this mod more than anyone else could ever imagine.
$10 is trival, i would like to have seen more go to Garry than 50% but no matter what happens to the mod, Garry DESERVES to be paid for his time and effort. My computer isn’t the most spectatular thing in the world, everytime Garrys Mod crashes it takes on average 4 1/2 minutes to get back in to the server where i was again. I personally will be pre-ordering it as soon as I see it available. I would like to see a more stable verison of the game that doesn’t crash out everytime some Minge comes in buddas himself and runs around rampant easy-welding everything that he cant delete to a wall somewhere in the map.
I’d pay $10 just to see a version without that horrible text corruption. Something that i know will be fixed in the commercial version. I have been reading hundreds and hundreds of posts on this matter, some of you people make me so angry, why should Garry be forced to keep his mod free, he was offered something that thousands of modders only dream of, the “Source Code”, that alone is worth the deal with valve.
This mod would have died out if it wasnt for this deal being made, some people just dont understand that, Garry was done with the mod and that would have been it. I found out about Garry’s Mod when it was in its early versions like 2 or 3 I can’t really remember anymore, but the potential a program like this has is highly underated, his mod offers direct modification to the actual engine in its most primal and advanced functions; that alone is quite a feature unavailable to any other mod.
Suck it up, pay the $10 for the game, get better support, more and improved features, also a lot less Minges screwing with others work.
wizpig64 Says:
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It wouldn’t be Garry’s Mod withought Garry!
Sub7 Says:
This is sick!
What money do the people who wrote on his forums inspiring him and adding ideas to pot get?.. bollox all!
GMOD’s success is based on it’s community, not just one guy.
If nobody had given ideas, the mod would not have got very far.
BTW, this is not really garrys fault, it’s steams.
Crappy update times, servers, bugs, account systems, support systems, security, GUI and to top it off, MONEY SUCKING WHORES!
I hate all who work at steam and also wish they had cancer.
Oh and also BTW, garry has made loads in donations so dont worry about “ohh he dun gd, let him hav munies”.
BOLLOX TO THIS! BOLLOX TO STEAM! AND BOLLOX TO PAYING FOR GMOD!
kthxbye
Soup Says:
I say it’s a good move, why let Gmod die when all you have to do is fork out one weeks of candy money to keep it alive.
How about a ‘gold’ ’silver’ or ‘bronze’ set of Gmod? I wouldn’t mind a shirt with some funny poses on it. Or even Garry’s ugly mug.
I can’t wait to play a hassle-free Gmoded version of DOD:S ( I never have gotten it to work…)
Ryan Carpenter Says:
Listen, if I get to the point where I have a mod that has as much interest from the community as Gary, I would probably start to charge as well. I don’t use Gmod a lot, but deffinately much time has been put into this project…being a programmer I know. Plus, it’s only a one time 10$ purchase for unlimmited upgrades, which is a good deal, frankly i’m supprised he’s letting the privious versions stand out there as a demo, with steam it wouldn’t be hard to restrict the content. Gary had a good idea, spent the time and money to profect it, it’s only fair that he sees a little bit of monitary compensation for his hard work. Plus, this is the awesome thing about Valve, they support things like this and help people to really get there name out there, kudos for both gary and valve!
Nick Says:
Who ever called Garry an ass for trying to sell the mod is an ass, i mean, Really. Cmon. I just think your too cheap to buy the actual mod yourselves (you know who you are)
I would support VALVe and Garry, because if not, think about life when CS , HL, And DoD + all other things VALVe produced, DISAPPEARED. some guy who play cs will say, “Rofl Lol Omg Yousuxor Noob Haha Fag” at one moment, and a few days later, he’ll be in a mental institute. What im trying to say is that Garry needed that source engine to make his mod, and 2nd, its a MODIFICATION. telling VALVe to leave Garry alone = Telling Garry to not make his mod. Nuff Said
MezzA Says:
I understand when people complain about paying for a mod
5/6 yrs ago Pre-Steam mods were free also to note less complex and time consuming. Valve have provided support
to alot of modders call it a business interest.
both parties get payed and WE get better games.
im sure garry wont forget his Roots and provide good service.
also alot of people cant buy (No CC’s) so theres anger there.
Quaver Says:
Have none of you cheap people been paying attention, or are you all so tight-assed that you saw “$10″ and thought you were being robbed!? Garry’s hard work and effort was for all of you in the first place and what you dont seem to understand is that this has gone beyond just a crappy free mod now…
Like may others, I “bought” Half Life, CS:s an Deathmatch because of Garrys mod and still dont regret it to this day. I can not think of a better direction to take as this will allow the REAL FANS of his work to be able to pay a ONE TIME fee similar to that of the cost to go to the cinema. Regretably, I can understand if you dont own a credit card but for those who have no intension whatsoever of forking out a, really very insignifficant amount of money for something that has given you countless hours of playability and a new level of gaming, because you think this is all about making money…… Then I suggest you delete all of your games not just on steam but Every game you own. It’s a little something called BUSINESS and if you dont understand that yet, go ask your bloody mother!
If just one of you can give a justifiable reason for flaming Garry and his efforts for asking those who have received soo much for free in the past then be my guest. Those of you cheap and childish people who would rather curse Garry and his team for wanting some backup and support for their efforts, good riddance to you! You will not be missed and shall be condemed out of what little creativity remains in the gaming industry.
Teaqu Says:
Go Garry Go Garry… go go, go Garry!!!
DePrEsSeD Says:
Im split on the decision, if garry/steam could give alernate payment methods (paybycash, bankcard) i would gladly pay. but i dont like the idea of it being sold over a service that only uses credit card is kinda of a no-no. People who HATE credit cards with a passion (like me) won’t be able to pay.
Carrot Says:
What a sellout.. he won’t be getting any support from me.
Simon Says:
I will never pay money for this. Mods are supposed to be made for fun, as a hobby… not sold for profit. I was thinking of going out to buy half-life 2 today, just so I could play garrys mod again. It’s been months since I’ve last played. Well count me out now.
Screw this.
Mooe Says:
I’m not gonna pay for this!!
Mods are meant to be free!
Lorden Says:
MY ASS! WE HAVE ALLREADY PAID GARRY! we paid him the first time, 1 and a half years ago , we could have said, “ong n00b, Jbm0d rulez, u rip 0ff, g0 3uck y0ur balls” but no, we said “Garry, even though this is worse than JBMod, we will stick to you” Second, we accepted his “Grammar nazi” antics,we support him, and we are a growign community, making us pay will cut the community in half, maybe more. So, If garry does this, its gonna turn out like all the other games, you pay, you play for 5 hours, and then leave forever, lettign Garry’s Mod slowly die.
Ian Says:
I would pay $10 for Gmod. I think it’s worth it, but I think
it would be better if it was PLAYABLE OFFLINE!!
IT NEEDS TO BE PLAYABLE OFFLINE!
PanchoVilla Says:
Two things -
1: I have a checking account. I have a Visa check card. I have a job. I can either work for one hour, get paid my ten bucks, and use it to buy this game, or, I can crumple up the bill, shove it in my ass, put it in my lighter, smoke it, and eat the charred remains. I don’t mind paying for a *GOOD* game. Hell, even a ten year old should be able to cough up ten bucks, nowadays!
2: If people are supposed to do stuff for free, where is the incentive to make good games? If no one made HL2, or any good game, what the hell would you be doing right now? Playing demos? Playing mods of games no one wants? Playing *herk* FLASH GAMES WITH ADS IN THEM???????????????
PanchoVilla Says:
BTW, you can now play Steam games (including HL2, which I’m playing through) offline. You just need to get online once for the updates, and then when you’re offline you should be able to play it.
http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=213
Richard Says:
As much as i despise the fact that steam has bought garry out, every man has his price
Garry i hope this benifits you, good work on the mod so far
Great idea, but i think it will take a while before its worth buying (let steam stuff it up and repair it later)
Marc Says:
What happens if you buy Garrys mod first then u buy Half Life 2?
Tom Edwards Says:
You would need HL2 (or one other Source game) first.
manuaL Says:
In my opinion, Garry’s doin what it takes to advance the game to a whole ‘nother level and I wholeheartedly support it. I simply can’t wait for the new version to be released on steam, and will buy it as soon as it’s available.
Byew Says:
You guys are going into politics…. and politics F#@#@ing SUck
Gottkrieg Says:
Guys stop complainign it’s frigin 10 bucks, cheap pricks.
Zeek Says:
Well, it’s been fun GMod but I’m not using my creditcard, what with how much Steam accounts get hacked. Not paying $10 for any mod, I only got HL2 because my parents gave it to me for christmas in the retail box
Tom Edwards Says:
Accounts get ‘hacked’ because people type their passwords into phishing websites. It’s easy enough to avoid.
yywhere Says:
when is it going to be up for sale.
Fiz Says:
Eh, well, 10 US bucks ain’t bad. I’m not buying it due to me sucking at GMod, but more power to Garry.
Mikefox124 Says:
Eh, I’d rather stick with GMOD 9.04 then pay $10 dollars for a mod. I mean, Garry’s mod was just a regular mod, but mods can’t be sold for a price. (Unless you VALVe, offer it).
bobtehbuilder Says:
I dont see how this is even really considered a mod, someone toying around with the Havok engine with HL2’s slow engine as a rendering overhead and using Valve’s models as placeholders ? I dont know, I always thought mods were about getting creative, as opposed to playing with Valve’s licensed tech.
Though I must say, I am suspicious of Valve’s tendency to buy up anything that becomes successful in a community, Ive a feeling TeamFortress2 wouldve been done by 1999 if Valve hadnt been involved, and it probably wouldve been pretty damn cool. But it was something popular and they figured they could snag more people by purchasing it.
Just really makes me wonder what their concept of a game community is.
Tom Edwards Says:
Please don’t buy this game. Thanks.
Lord Ned Says:
The average allowance (In the US) Was about 50 dollars a week, in 1987 I belive. So 50 Devided by 10= 1/5. That is 1/5 a week’s allowance. Sure, so you don’t have a mastercard, or other aceptable payment. That is why you have parents.
Ask them to use their credit card, to buy it for you. Then you will pay them in full.
But before gmod, have you ever played a game, such as Fort Wars, or Build To The Top? It may not have any real gameplay value, (Like CS:S) but it opens a new realm for inventors, or people who love to create. Sure, he might have said “I’ll never make you pay” But, have you ever had a promise, like “I’ll get off by 9:00″ then go to 9:30 cause you were having fun? Things are ment to get broken. (Toys, Games, Promises) Have you ever been able to create things from your wildest fantesy?
Haven’t you been pissed off, at Gmod 9.04 because it gets distracted, if you tab out, and surf the web, then it freezes, or your just finished building a thing like Traynasours, and then Gmod froze? This is because of the glitches caused by what you can do with the public SDK.
All in all, I’m for it! This has been the best choice you could have made Garry. You payed $30 or so for Half Life 2, $20 for CS:S, why can’t you pay $10 for a sandbox mod, that allows almost anything?
تIcEmAsTeRت Says:
Wher do i get Garry´s Mod Free Here ?
danny mo Says:
This is utterly digusting! Valve putting temptation in garrys hands! tho Cant really blame him because if i was a third party mod creator i would have done the same! but for valve to sell the mod for $10 is getting beyond the joke! we buy the game for £30 in the uk (where i live)and then we are expected to but third party mods! if we want to continue enjoying the game in different ways! this has really pi*sed me off! motherfu*king money hungry companys like valve should have government sanctions! 10 dollars from every person who purchase this mod will make thousands, and to top it valve are taking 50% of the income for themselves! garry taken the time to make the mod he should receive all that money if he so wishes! one last comment fu*k you VALVE!
I would like to make another comment to me earlier comment, MODS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FREE! ITS A MODIFICATION TO THE GAME WE PURCHASED AND NOW YOU EXPECT US TO PAY FOR A FUCKING MOD TO THE GAME BE BOUGHT! WELL LET ME TELL YOU THIS! IF THIS IS VALVES SCEME TO START CHARGING FOR MODS THEN FUCK YOU TO HIGH HEAVEN! I WILL NEVER EVER BUY ANOTHER VALVE GAME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE! LETS LOOK AT THE WAY VALVE ARE WORKING THINGS SHOULD WE!
1, SINCE THE RELEASE OF HL2 VALVE ARE NOW MAKING “EPISODE 1″ WHICH WILL PROPABLY LEAD TO 10 OR MORE EPISODES! = MORE MONEY FOR VALVE! AND USING THE SAME FUCKING ENGIN AND SAME PROPS THAT WERE IN HL2 THERE FOR LESS WORK! THAT MEANS THEY SHOULD NOT BE SETTING THIS GAME AT 20 POUNDS!
2 VALVE ARE NOW CHARGING FOR MODS! WHAT FUCKING NEXT A TAX FEE EVERY YEAR FOR HAVING THE GAME ?
IF THIS IS HOW THE COMPANY ARE WORKING IT NOW I HOPE THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS! p.S DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM VALVE IF THIS STARTS HAPPENING! PROTEST THEY WILL SOON LEARN!
Valve are seriously mistaken If they think people are gonna fall for this! i see right through the scheming Mother Fu8kers
Tom Edwards Says:
I’d be grateful if you didn’t buy it, either.
no one Says:
OH! Steam and garry will be getting hate mail for a long time.
Faron Says:
To all people who say they can’t pay it:
Is it so hard to ask your parents for their creditcardnumber and then pay it back in cash to them?
01kay Says:
To Danny Mo,
Get real boy, people get ripped off all the time. I’m pissed that I get ripped by my insurance company, I’m pissed that I get ripped by my government. The fact is; companies and people will always try to get your money, its there whole reason for being. Don’t forget that Counter-Strike was a mod originally and we pay for that now. Go sit on a headcrab…
P.S. I’ll be buying it, got nothing better to spead my money on.
the man Says:
come on people. 10 bucks isnt bad.
and valve deserves some of what they get. they made the engine
that garry is using and are givin it to him for free. and do you really think garry cares about the money? if he did why the least amount of money possible for a steam game. many of the people who are going to get it would gladly pay more.
its not greed, it’s necessity. you go spend half the time garry did on a mod and you’d want compensation, especially when many of the people using the mod are minges who dont care who made it. its a win win situation. unless you cant buy it but want to in which case i feel bad for you. the community needed purging and this will do it.
danny mo Says:
To 01kay,
I think you are gulible and if someone came to you with brick dust claiming that it was gold you would buy it top dollar wouldent you! people like you make me sick, You would rather pay for this mod than get it for free ? if valve cant sell garrys mod what do you think happens ? the game becomes free! Please dont be an idiot and buy this, Sit tight and wait! play gmod 9. and as for 01kay your a dickhead you have no sense whatsoever
Mr.Pie Says:
This is not a bad move people, 10 bucks is nothing. I read somewhere that garry was going to discontinue updating the mod until this arrangement. its either no gmod10 or gmod10 for 10$, u DONT have to upgrade.
fools your not loosing anything, just gaining
happyface Says:
Garry is an ass. If you’ve ever talked to him on IRC, or at the beginning of his mod during the JB Mod days. But, I think Garry deserves this for all that hard work hes put into the mod. I’m definately not going to buy it because I find it boring as HELL; but it will be nice to read some more impressive web comics
TacoGeddon Says:
After reading the above comments….I have this to say to the people who buy it: Be happy……because you won’t have to deal with the flaming assholes…..beacause they most likely won’t buy it
All of the flaming is useless, if you don’t want to buy it…..don’t…..and never speak to the GMod community again. But the 9.0.4 version “demo” community will be a flaming hellhole full of the dimwits who didn’t buy GMod 10.
Trigger Says:
10 bucks is nothing. You can get 10 dollars from taking back beer bottles and pop cans.
Those without jobs and still in middle school are the ones crying I bet.
Trigger Says:
Anyways, this move will eliminate ALOT of the tards in-game since mommy won’t buy it for them.
Caesar Says:
Wohoo! I don’t think that I will be able to hold out until GMod 10 arrives. And ten dollars is cheap. I could buy this for at least thirty dollars.
SFAL Says:
Garry crapped on my heart
Bjarte Says:
If im able to buy this, i will. It’s just 10 crappy dollars! that is very cheap when you think about all the time and work Garry spent on this to make us happy!
Pay for the fun people.
Bjarte Says:
You are paying 10 bucks for something worth 100 bucks!
And it’s worlds best mod EVER!
Hobo Says:
Why can’t they put the payment through cell phones it would be a LOT easier to earn money cause more people would download it (not everyone has a credit card).
barcon Says:
this is bull i mean i pay $10.00 fore the mod and i hafto pay another $10.00 fore updates gmod is coll an all probly the best thing ive ever playd but wtf!! and there is like a hundred updates fore the game eneway im not paying ten bucks fore that crap.
Gungrave (My Gmod alias) Says:
I fully support Garry even though i have only been playing almost a year now. I feel that what He has accomplished is even more than what valve did in the first place. Just think you have a mod thats based of one of the most popular Half Life 2 titles for PC. And this mod is even more versital than the product that was created by valve and supported by steam. A modificatino or third party software that has a sandbox mode; that can also be used to create maps like my favorite the Hometown Rp server map. Or you can just use the mod as a death match based of of Garrys mod. You can also host and join other servers. OH and another thing i like is that you can go back and co-op came play through the main Half Life 2 story line with your friends.
And last but not least this mod is based right off of your steam games launch menu which also supports all your friends from Death Match servers.
Garry as well as your team of minions or should i say helpers. If you can create a online game as good as Valve if not better in my opinion why not market this software. However the down side will be all the new players that will bring in. Whom some may not abide by the rules causeing some problems.
On the other hand If you and your team can progam and create somthing of this caliber i am supprised your not already schooling if not helping and being paid to help them work on their games!
Good luck Garry from USA i support you.
Christopher Says:
Screw that. I’m not paying. I’ll stick with 9.4
Grunt002 Says:
I’m definitely buying this, it’s the best mod ever!
And every update is FREE after you buy Gmod 10, don’t you read?
Maverick Says:
I hope he changes the name. If it’s going to be SOLD it isn’t a mod anymore. It’s just “Garry’s”… And then a game namded after it’s creator is..well…off as far as describing it’s product goes. Hope it’s called Source Engine Playground who cares what it’s called.
erf Says:
Whats to whinge about? its a small fee, and its someones hard work. Just because its called a mod doesnt mean someone hasn’t put alot of time and effort into making it.
danny mo Says:
Your all fucking in the head as far as im concerned!
Pay for it for all i care, But just you watch when you see every modding team making mods for hl2 then selling them through steam! your fucking stupid! When they sell this it will break the barriers to all mods! Therefor YOU PAY FOR EVERYMOD YOU WANT TO USE! DUMB FUCKERS
chris Says:
ok this message if for steam,garry and everone else well anyways wut if you dont have a credit card and your parents wont let you take 10$ and use there credit card.also sence mostly every game that you haft to but is in stores does this mean garrys mod will be buyable in stores sence most every one with a credit car will have on and that means there will be no kids? and then that wont be fair would it? so plz awser my question
Alex Says:
I’m paying, no problem.
To all of you who are happy with their old version, keep it. He’s not making you upgrade.
Guess what? The mod boundary was broken years ago. To cite a few: CS, DoD, several NWN addons. There’s tons. The wall was broken years ago. So shut your mouths, and let the man alone. It’s his intellectual property. If you don’t like it, go make your own mod and give it away for free. Until you can do that, and do it better, you have no right to speak.
Krazyboy116 (From God Forums) Says:
I’ll buy it. Easy. 10$ is nothing (I get 10$ for mowing half the freaking lawn.). I’m not so stupid to think that Garry’s mod would have lasted long without some form of compensation. People get bored when they do the same thing for years and get nothing out of it. I’m also not so stupid to gripe about what is perfectly fair for Garry. How long has he been doing this? What has he gotten out of it? Besides the support of his fans, naida.
Quit whining.
Borna Says:
THIS IS SICK WHY DO THIS TO SUCH A GREAT PROGRAM!?!
NaT Says:
Well, I was going to write a big, long paragraph concerning, among other things, the immature comments here, why it is a good choice for the developing end of this deal(ValVe and Garry), how this would benefit the modding community, and lastly my two cents on all of this, but decided not to. Why? Because of comments like #293, #285, and #266(there are many others but I haven’t the time to scroll all the way up). So, I’ll write a big long paragraph that will probably lead to the topics above anyway, and which already appears to be doing, huh? First of all, you can skip this and just turn your computer completely off right now if all that can come from your head is something foul-mouthed and utterly depressing and vile which cannot even slightly contribute to the matters at hand. With that said, and if you’re still reading, I would like to give you a brief synopsis of the topics stated above, minus the first one, i guess. From my POV, which I believe to be the CONSUMER point of view, this creates very little concern in my mind because, even if for some reason you can’t see it, this is how the economy works. Somebody finds something to sell(Garry), someone wants to jump on this person’s bandwagon(ValVe), and everyone else who likes it then pays for it(the CONSUMER). Of course that description is VERY vague and not 100% accurate given the circumstances, but it will have to suffice. Seeing that this is just everyday economics, I can continue my life as happily as it was before I even knew who Garry was. ValVe is a company, which likes money, and, well, who doesn’t? In fact, this money thing is what makes the world turn and the people in debt. As a matter of fact, Garry does too! When ValVe said, “Hey, Garry! Want to make some cash? We’ll even through in the source of Source!”, Garry couldn’t refuse this, because it gave him new opportunities with his mod, having the source engine and all, plus, some extra money was in the works, too. So, Garry gets to explore some cool new territory, and valve gets more money, which in turn WILL end up paying for the development of a game from them in some way or another, don’t you think? It really is a win/win situation, even if some people don’t get what they want, ValVe and Garry will get what they were looking for. Some people don’t like, others do, but, really, do you think either Garry or ValVe are going to say, “Oh, I’m sorry, If you don’t want to pay 10 bucks then I guess it should be free.” If that were the case, I don’t think I would be sitting here typing this. For my conclusion, I’ll leave you with my two cents, which isn’t much these days. I already have my 10 bucks waiting to buy the game, with my parents’ credit card, since I’m not even old enough to drive yet, let alone give some company thousands of dollars in interest charges, what a shame… I’m looking at this from a CONSUMER’s POV, and I think that’s the best way to look at this, unless you’re, say, Garry Newman.
NaT Says:
Well, looks like my proofreading really payed off…Garry likes money too, but he doesnt cause the world to turn and stuff, whoops. There’s a couple of other goofs, but I hope you can forgive me for my grammatical errors, if you managed to read all of it and stay awake.
Big Gramma Says:
I don’t get what the big deal is, its only $10, Im assuming that the people who are complaining about this, are ten year-old kids, and in that regard, should not be playing something like this… Personally I think that this is an excellent move for Garry AND the community, because hopefully the mingebags who go spawning chimneys and being fags won’t pay for it, leaving only the people who really want to use it.
Personally I think that If Garry makes money off of this, then the game will be more polished and have more features, I would gladly pay up to $25 for Garry’s Mod 10.
#290 I can answer your question: If you cannot get a hold of a credit card, then your probably not 18 or older which means, technically, you shouldn’t be playing Half-Life 2 or its mods, not that I care, but it doesn’t mean Garry should pass up a great and rewarding deal like this, so just stick with GMOD 9.0.4.
[CSE] JusticeInACan Says:
When I first found out that Gmod 10 was going to be P2P, I wasn’t sure I was going to buy it. Now, after seeing the countless videos and features, I’m happy to say that I’m willing to work for and shell out as much money as I need to to get this mod. I love Gmod as it is and by the looks of everything, the upgrade will make it ten times better. FOr people who continue to bitch at this change saying “Garry is a greedy bastard” and saying “fucking 10 dollars I can afford dis!!!111lone!!!,” I suggest you get a job, mow some lawns, and think some things over.
ColdKillerLips Says:
This is a big step into leading garry into a whole new line of business. I think it’s good that it’s becoming a full game and i think that we should enjoy it. If any of you knew how to program you would know that garry has put many hours into this for us and he deserves something in return. It takes money to make the games so it should take money to get the games.
~ColdKillerLips
Wazzat Says:
Why dont people get it?
GMOD was not gonna continue to a version 10 anyway, because Garry was not interested in continuing and there really wasnt much left to add to it because of the limited Source SDK.
Valve has actually saved GMOD by eniticing Garry with the Source source-code. Now GMOD will continue and expand with features not possible before.
If you don’t wanna pay you can keep using the free version.
Why the fuck are you complaining?
LAWL Says:
Please sell this in shops =D
Somebody pretending to be Garry Says:
Don’t worry, Yes I am going to sell this in “shops”.
Superracer Says:
Gmod’s Demo is gonna Have few things. i think. so garry gets income? And do you even known what Word “demo” means? of course, a “trailer” or “trial” Sorry if someone already said it, but i am lazys.
Faffy Says:
Everyone out there who thinks Garry’ an idiot, or a jerk for putting Gmod on Steam really needs to learn a thing or two about how this kinda stuff works. And for all those little 12 year olds going, “Garry’s such a dick for making me pay $10 for some stupid game.” I have a few words for you, ITS 10 FREKIN DOLLARS YOU CHEAP IDIOTS! Heres an idea to solve your financial troubles and your weight problems. Instead of buying that Butterfinger from the snack machine at school every day, save that dollar and in 10 days, bam! You got your 10 bux. Just Give that to your mom or dad and borrow their credit card.
And Garry, I really only discovered Gmod about 3 months ago but hear this: I’m fully supporting you with this deal because as most of the idiots who spend their time playing this all day (myself included) don’t understand one thing: Over time, things change and stuff happens.I mean thats the way all business works. Thats how the stock market works. And if you dont believe me your probably a complete idiot who lives in Rhode Island(like me!). Now I mean, if you have 25 bux for HL2, CS:S, DoD:S plus more… thats like 60-70 dollars. Gmod is 10. And you dont even really need any extra Apps except for HL2 (I think?), so, there you go! Good luck on your future career paths garry and I salute your partnership with Valve. Who knows, maybe they might even offer you a job there.
Faffy Says:
And one more thing: Garry’s Mod is simply the name of the program. And while it is indeed a mod for some Source products it is also its own game. It’s kinda like a Game-made-from-other-games although i guess you can call me an idiot because thats sorta what a mod is. I guess what I’m trying to say is Garry’s Mod, in my mind,Is higher than a mod as in, it need a more deserving, more respectable title than a “mod”.
When I think of a mod, I think of some crazy add-on for a big hit game made by a motley crew of video game obsessed teenagers. I cannot say the same for Garrys Mod. Garrys Mod feels like Garry did the exact same thing valve did except the difference is this:
Valve:”Hey, lets make a game using the Source engine thats the sequel to our first game which was a big hit!”
Garry:”Hey, I’ll make a game that has a sandbox-type gameplay out of a highly acclaimed game which was, and still is a big hit!”
Or to put it another way. Gmod seems more respectable and unique as opposed to, say that Plan of Attack game, which is basically a cold war version of CS:S
Teal Says:
Let’s have a look at a few modern day games.
Or not, I can’t remember the specfics.
BUT
How many of them use Engines??
All of them.
How many of them are using an Engine that was developed by another company or game?
Lots of them.
This is what Garry’s Mod is. It’s a new game using the Source engine. Don’t think its a mod, because it has very little in common with Half Life 2.
uber dood Says:
i got#9 and think its fun but i wouldnt shell out 10 bucks for it. okay maybe i would but still its just too little to be 10$ it should be 5$ lol. btw any1 got gmod 9 stuff
it would be much appreciated
razputin101@yahoo.com
uber dood Says:
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Whoot! got that right
Danoth Says:
I think this move for garry rocks. Can’t wait for it to come out XD
somedude Says:
well, i think that in a future version of hl2, i.e. episode 2, they may include gmod 10 if garry approves because it would make sense. Technically, because it uses the Source engine, it would be good to add it to a new release and give garry his cut.
Just because Garry does it doesn’t mean everyone will do it. He has paid for the engine, many mods don’t use the actual engine so they cannot charge. If Black Mesa Source bought the game engine like Garry, then they could charge $10 or whatever. I think Valve could have a new area of development where modders who make outstanding products, like Garry’s Mod, could petition or get noticed by Valve and have the opprotunity to further their production by getting a 50/50 split of profits while paying for the liscense by selling their new “add-on” for $10 or something like that.
rsa1988 Says:
I support this all the way, because this mod is brilliant in how it’s made and everything. So going to gmod ten and having ten bucks less is nothing compared to what you get in return. Besides it’s Garry’s turn to get something from the community.
Dragonshadow Says:
Oh I can’t wait! I think it is coming out this month!!!!!
yo mama Says:
Garrys mod 10 should be free for everybody
yo mama Says:
I wonder when its coming out
Totster Says:
well $10 over in england isnt exactly allot its only like £5-6 so i will get it ill just ask my mum n dad whether they could buy it considering its going to be a great mod then hell yeah ill buy it and look forward to really good stuff but ill play 9.0.4 till then and i wont getit straight away but oh well any way for the people that are complaining its not that much to give considering he worked his ass of trying to make something then release it considering he made it for personal use and stuff we are lucky he felt like releasing it to us so we gotta be thankfull for that and also $10 (£5-6) isnt allot condiering that he gave us the previous versions free i think garry is making ther right move for something that good sometimes it has to cost some sort of money for making the thing and improvements and stuff oh well any way you should thank garry for being a nice guy as he did not charge us for any of the previous versions so stop moaning and get on with it if u aint gonna get it then fine just dont give garry a hard time over this or moan because he charging for it and thank him its not that much to ask.
Totster Says:
oh and we dont know when its coming out because steam cancelled its release date because they have to accomidate it on steam so you will all just have to wait like everyone else
I don't have a name Says:
*Fact: Garry is a douchebag….if someone else were in control, the game would be free. Giving the game to Valve was the worst idea in the index of worst ideas.
Why do you ask?
*Fact: Steam and Valve will release Gmod 10 “Only if they feel like it”. Meaning that sense the game is now in the hands of Steam and Valve….They work exactly like Microsoft does: They take a product from someone else, tell the original product maker to “get lost”, and then do whatever they pleese with the product, even if it may be illegal. What do you think happened to Dynamix? Vavle bought them out and told Dynamix’s employee’s that they are “no longer needed”.
*Conclusion: Don’t buy Vavle products anymore. They started out like a normal game company…..and ened up like shit.
I don't have a name Says:
All in All:
Garry…….
what the fuck were you thinking….
GMW666 Says:
Everyone who is bad mouthing garry STFU!!!! look if you made somthing that THOUSANDS of people were using you would probably charge for it!!! look he is sucsessfull get over it. also i think its great that he is getting the source code, means its gonna be more stable, and to the guy who posted before me, WTF!!! valve is briliant, without it you probably wouldnt have defcon from introvision, or other games that wouldnt sell in shops. there i think im gonna have a lie down now…….
Cotty Says:
I have to disagree with everyone badmouthing Garry. I don’t know what the problem is with dishing out 10 dollars for an amazing game. Save your lunch money for a week, there you go. Don’t have a credit card? SOMEONE in your family has a credit card. I already checked. Seriously, you’re all burning him at the stake before the product even comes out. I’ll be the first to complain if give 10 dollars and get a bad product. Sit back relax and wait for the mod to come out. If it sucks, the valve community will gather up, and go to Garry’s house to burn him in effigy. Trust Me.
Xeno Says:
Seriously, if you don’t like thye mod or don’t want to pay for it DON’T NO ONE FORCES YOU IF YOU CAN’T EVEN PAY $10 YOU SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED ON THE INTERNET.
Mark Says:
I think this is not a good idea. No offense but steam has been putting a price on everything they get. I know this is a profit for the company and g-mod but it is unfair to people like me who are not allowed to buy the game online and don’t have the money to pay for it when it comes into stores because it would be more expensive.
Denec Says:
Yes!!!!Steam should stop putting prices on most of the things they get!They only leave out the horrible demos!They should stop that!
PseudoThief Says:
Well guys I dont know how long any of you have been around for but I remember back to the time when Counter-Strike was a completely free game and steam didnt even exist. Now look where we are.
Tbh though I dont mind paying a small fee to have my game receive updates automatically and I think that Garry does deserve to be making something from all the hard work he has put into it.
The only problem I have is that, as usual, valve are greedy bastards and demand 50% of the profits for doing none of the work. Cant say it comes as much of a suprise though.
Firestorm Says:
Why on earth did you sell out garry,
this sucks having to pay for what was the best free thing since bottled water.
seriously sucks to have to pay for something like this
didn’t you feel a sense of responsability to the thousands of people who love your work?
Havok Says:
[Comment ID #397 Will Be Quoted Here]
Let’s not give Garry any ideas.
Look, the way I see it is, Garry is a great guy who deserves to be paid for all of the hard work he does.
But, on the other hand, it’s ridiculous to pay money for a game, when you can play the “Demo” for free. Keep in mind, it’s a full-version “demo”
Now maybe it’s just me (And half the GMod 9 Users out there) who are experiencing major difficulties with GMod 9, now that GMod 10 is out, but for everyone else, they could easily just play GMod 9. We can learn to live with some of the bugs.
Besides the fact that most of the players are getting random client errors now that Gmod 10 is out…not to mention the ever so annoying:
“Disconnect: Server uses different class tables” that is so physically impossible to rid of, which makes you want to pull the trigger on your computer once and for all.
rickchard Says:
GIVE ME GARRY S MOD
jonzo4000 Says:
I’d just like to say something to all those who are opposed to the new cost of Garry’s Mod. I belive that you are all incredibly selfish and your expectations are rediculous. How about you try spending two years of your life, money out of your pocket, and a countles amount of effort on something and expect nothing back. Based on the fact that you seem to feel entitled to this mod, i doubt any single one of you would do it with out something in return. If you had an incredibly successful product that could easily be marketed, wouldnt you do just that? Ofcourse you would. I am more than willing to give something back to Garry and his team and i think that everyone who can afford it, and has been playing the game should purchase it. Is ten dollars alot of money for the countless hours of fun you have had, and will have in the future? I don’t think so. Buy the game, you all know its worth it.
Scooby gmod alias Says:
Yall are stupid. Its January now and all the retail version out. Listen, I spent 50 bucks just to play gmod 9, (desperate-much? lol) and after that i got the Half Life 2 box including all the games I need to get gmod working, which is CSS, HL2-DM, HL2, I also got a few extras
. I got 50 bucks from mowing the yard and from a past birthday, by the way this was a while ago, and when I finally installed it all after 6 attempts (HL2 was being a b**** to install) I finally got all i need to get it. Then a week later something happened and all the games on my Steam list UNINSTALLED ITSELF. And if you think thats bad after installing it all my computer was running on its death lol (All that was left was about 512MB, yea), and when it uninstalled itself it didn’t even free the space. I deleted ALOT of stuff after that then got gmod 10. Which is 10$. And I didn’t reinstall any of the HL2 stuff. And it all works fine now. 
So be grateful. I am.
mr.Poto Says:
Im happy to pay $10 for this. Hopefully others will see the benefit to paying. If this brings in alot of $$$ for valve it may be the next counter-strike(CS was a HL1 mod). Not many games out there you can play for $10 and have the vast freedom and be able to customize it. Look at it this way if you play the sims you know you have fork over 20-30 bucks for a few extra features that should have been in the original game.
Garry is fool Says:
If this were sold through local stores i would pay a little more for it, because i hate this fucking steam payment modes, fucking credit card/paypal-suckers!
Sisyphus Says:
Is there a moderator around? This place SHOULD have a mod to cut offensive posts (see above). Anyway, I’m currently downloading a torrent with GMod 10, I never played this before, but I’m so enthusiastic that I’ll actually buy the game next week. 10$ isn’t so much of a deal, guys – just skip going out for one or two evenings and you’ve got the 10$. If you don’t have a credit card, just ask one of your friends to help you. Or your parents – they’re most likely to be the closest people to you that own a credit card. What’s wrong with 10$ – it’s a bargain! I own hundreds of dollar’s worth of games and thousand’s $ worth cracked versions. I would have payed 10$ in a store to buy this game and not download an illegal copy of it but it can’t be done… So I’ll buy a serial key next week! WITH 10$!!!
Felipe Says:
£5 is all it cost`s, even though i dont get money that often and my family is quite poor, but nether the less, i will get it. It looks like awesomebeans.
wimpula Says:
I think this was a step for the worse. Because garry kinda stopped people under age of 15 to play gmod (not in every country but most) like i cant buy gmod and stupid parents wont buy it cause they think the credit number will get stolen or some thing like that. and the “demo” version suck with their millions of bugs wimpula over and out.
wimpula Says:
o by the way i agree with the people that sayd stop saying bas about garry. look people garry has to make litle money out of gmod cause you try making a same mod for many yers and then ye get nothing that would suck. but still i hate paypall cause parents are crasy and im only 13 but i have 200 dollars so money isnt the broplem but the damn card is. so util im 15 god damn or i may ask my best friend but no shure if hell say yes wimpula oveer and out.
Omg Says:
I would want to buy Garry’s Mod 10 but I don’t have a credit card. I am 18 but I don’t have a job. Anyone of my family or any my friends doesn’t have a credit card. $10 is very nice prize but I just can’t buy it without credit card. I just have to wait until I get one, someone else buys me Garry’s Mod 10 or Garry’s Mod gets in the retail stores.
Dan Says:
ok people who can’t fucking afford £5 or $10 are gay.
Good on for garry hes put alot of work on mods and i couldn’t believe when i first play garry’s mod 9 that it was free.
Dan Says:
wtf i have a debit card when i was 12, and my school where the 1’s who gave us the option. debit cards can work aswell as credit cards but better
Dan Says:
no wait i was 11
A-guy Says:
i would pay 50 dollars…if i had a credit card.
Omg Says:
(First read my first message, thanks)
Well, it’s required to be 18 years old and have a long lasting (several years) job in Finland to get a credit card.
Still waiting for retail stores…
Jack Gould Says:
ive justbought css and gmod off of steambut for the last few days steam has been too busy to handle my request which i find really annoying. have any of u had this problem and what did u do?
hl2 n'shit Says:
garry’s mod 10. $1 per version.
i have had more fun out of gmod than out of hl2 but i cant get gmod 10 because stupid steam dosent do a stupid retail box that i would have to travel 2 hours in a plane to buy it because i live in an islad(game shops here a lousy).
so total if steam makes retail=$10+$x 4 box+$400(trip).(+vat)
Sharp843 Says:
I do believe it is economically good for Gary to charge for Gmod10. However, Garys Mod 9 Multiplayer has been shut down by Steam and many people have problems playing 9 in single player. I don’t think Gary was directly responsible for shutting down 9, but in any case I’m not going to pay for new content if I cannot even access the old content. At one time I had my credit card out and was ready to buy..this whole fiasco with Gmod9 is bull.
Tom Edwards Says:
I can still see people playing V9. Do you have a link to whatever it is you’re talking about?
Hani Says:
Can someone please help me i downloaded Half-life 2 and counter strike source and the deathmatch and now i downloaded steam and i downloaded Garry’s mod 9 and i cant find Garry’s mod in steam what i do please someone help me here is my email:Hani_444@hotmail.com
Big thanks
Hanizzz
Jeremy Oberg Says:
I love V9.4, simply because its free, and thats my favirote number. I really dont know what to think, because I am only 14, to young to get a job to young to have a credit card. 9.4 is simply the best thing that happened to my life, but when I heard that a version 10 was coming out im like “whoa!!”, but then that fatefil day when Garry announced that you would have to pay. I about broke down I about broke down in tears (not really
) But I was sad. I think I might stick with version 9.4, even though I know that a new, better version is out, and I might not ever get it. I also think that it should be released in select stores like wal-mart, gamestop, or EB games, that would make it easier on me, and I wouldnt have to use a credit card. Please, please, please, PLEASE!!! Make it payable with cash, because I would galdly pay over $20.00 via mail (kinda like with Runescape, but not monthly). I know that would be hard, but it was just a sugestion. Unless Garry is planing to release a seprate game (or something biggerI might not even pay $10 sorry, but thats just the way my life works.
stiff Says:
i wanth gmod free!! or i wanne play a demo (gmod 9) how i know if its good ..plzz let there be a demo on steam!! =’(
Tom Edwards Says:
It’s available here.
Gimlet Says:
do u know what you are talking about? communism is the equal split of all income between all members of a society. Trying to get money out of others is a form of capitalism/fascism. Just so you know.
F*ckoff Says:
Sellout.
Jester Says:
OMFG!!! ITS ONLY 10 DOLLARS U GUYS NEED TO GET A JOB OR FOR THE LITTLE 1S U NEED TO KINDLY ASK UR PARENTS! FOR GOD SAKES!!
blair smith Says:
(tayax-you-tube)
i wish i cauld get gmod 10 but i dont have a c-card
there should be another way to pay or gmod should be pysicly
sold all around the world “i am in new zealand hint hint”
Garrys mod #1 Says:
Oh my god all you cheap fags out there should look into gmod and see all the hard work done.
jared Says:
ITS SO GAY I really want it but i cant use a credit card! at least sell it in a store !!!!
justin Says:
how do I buy gmod
Phanael Says:
Has anyone noticed, that half the people saying, that this is a bad move for Garry, seem to be illiterate?
Just a thought…
Phanael Says:
…and does not seem to have any tenable arguments?
Darian Says:
WE NEEEEEEEED GARRYS MOD FOR
Darian Says:
[quote comment="3539"]ITS SO GAY I really want it but i cant use a credit card! at least sell it in a store !!!![/quote]
yeAH WHAT HE SAID
Ionpower Says:
Heya! I love V10! I tried it at my cousins and when i got home i bought it lmaorolf ITS THE BEST GAME EVER
Seriously you gotta buy it…
Or try the Demo V9.0.4
You can go to gamespot and download it there or steam… i think.
But Hey its the best game EVER!
its awwwesome
)
10$? id pay 100$ for this Baby
Ps : V9.0.4 Antlion Gaurd’s A.I sucks.. i ran up close to it and it did nothing but stare and turn aroudn…
PSS : i like how you can hang things
PSSS : WHY THE HELL DOES DOG THROW THE NEAREST OBJECT AT YOU!>??
PSSSS: I love G mod
PSSSSS: ill promise i stop.
PSSSSSS: wooops…
Cya.
Steam : Ionpower ( add to contact
Ionpower Says:
I know i forgot something else….
I havent bought Garrys mod – although its aweeeesoemeeee…
but…. Wheres the….
Where do i buy it :p
Steam only has Garry’s mod 9….
Cant someone leave a message?+ Comment on here?
About how the game Rocks /sucks and The Link to where to buy Gmod V10
TY
Live long Garry
Ionpower Says:
Okay guys ive found it!
there ya go
and its not 10$ its $9.55
The link is http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=4000
cooliojoe Says:
hey this is cooliojoe (steam name) ionpower its 9.95 not 9.55
cooliojoe Says:
oh and i got one thing to say to the people badmouthing bout a price on garry TRY AND MAKE A SUCCESSFUL GAME OUT AND HAVE THOUSANDS MAYBE MILLIONS GOING ON IT YES THERE DEMOS (wich i argree hate steam only having crappy demos) ECT BUT COMEON GIVE THE GUY SOME CREDIT FOR IT
Figfewdisgewd Says:
Guys, COME ON! I think that this mod is worth way more than $10.00! If you hate the fact that he’s charging money for it than just freaking download one of the other 8 gmods!(They are all great!)
Garry’s mod 9.1 and now 10 are completely different from any of the other ones.Look at http://www.garrysmod.org and even youtube! These are just some of the things possible!
I’m just freaking 13 and this isn’t alot of money to me either!!!
Exile Says:
Guys, relax all.
The people that say Gary betrayed the community are obvios very ignorant and are 12 years old and have to suck a cock for 5 dollars.
Gary did a GREAT job, on developing Gmod.
He did things none of you 12 year old ignorant cock sucking people could do, don’t blame him for earning money.
Blame yourself for being ignorant.
You would have done the same fuckin’ thing.
Good move Garry, I support you.
Exile Says:
Oh and!
I just bought it, i’m curious.
It’s downloading now.
I’ll post what I think later on.
fucker Says:
fuck this, how do you damn play?!?!?!?!?!?
katobi Says:
“sadly, i have no access to a credit card, so i will lose out on the joy of G-mod, which i have used since the first, perhaps a version on a disk? i would pay $30 dollars for the game if i got it in a simple plastic box, with no manual…” Yeah, it would be great if they put it out for retail.
Jon Says:
I happily paid for my copy, it is worth the money. You dont need HL2 either, i dont have it and yet i get all the NPCs such as zombies and Alyx. Plus you get most, if not all the HL2 props. Plus i can access everything from CSS, ragdolls, guns ect. Its worth the money, and i am glad i got it.
Ye Says:
I have never played Garrys mod. From what I hear though, it is fucking awesome, and from the videos I’ve seen, I’d say it’s worth ALOT MORE than just $10. Compared to other games I’ve bought for £30? Dont even ask, it will get me angry.
The only problem I have with the entire valve/steam thing is that I have apparantly been banned because of a cheating infraction. Why can I get into most secure servers but for some it tells me that I’ve been banned and cannot get in? This makes no sense because firstly, i have not cheated, and also, WTF can I get in SOME secure servers? ALSO, WHY DO I CONSTANTLY FUCKING SEE CHEATERS IN SECURE SERVERS. BLATANTLY CHEATING IN EVERYWAY, AND NOT BEING BANNED?
How would you feel, if you were happily playing some CSDM. A cheaters comes in and starts raping everyone, people start crying, it’s a mess. Then YOU get banned from the server because the server finally “figured out” that I’m “kinda” banned from steam. WHAT the FUCK, NIGGER?
joshnosh_grav man Says:
do u hav to keep on paying to play gmod 10 or do u jst pay once??
Andy Simpson Says:
Once you’ve bought it, you own it. No additional charges.
Jer Says:
Reading some of the arguments destroys my brain. The logic used is abysmal. Consider this classic example: one person says that Garry owes you nothing, then they say why don’t you go out and get a job. If a leech is someone who believes that they owe the world nothing other than their presence, and you believe that Garry owes nothing to anybody, doesn’t this make Garry a leech? Also consider the example of the arXive mathematical and scientific community. I only check the mathematical part, but I have seen some brilliant logic on this community. Will the authors get paid for their paper? no chance, yet in terms of scale, a lot of these papers require more time, logic and ingenuity than the whole Garry’s mod community could muster. Everybody owes something to their community, or they deserve their title of selfish and lazy.
Garry needs to be reimbursed for his hard work, but there is a fine line between good and greedy motivation. If anybody has heard of the example of the mules in the coal mines, the mules would not pull the carts until they got rewarded. Considering how animalistic human nature is, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the game development community fall into this trench.
When will mods be free again? Where are we headed? Will games like this be bundled together thus raising the price of other games (think HL2 and CSS, I NEVER play CSS, and honestly I would rather it not be included, even if it only cost $3)? I would expect Black Mesa to follow the Garry model, start out free (non-endorsed), and then contract with steam.
Also, in response to comments about $10 being a lot… it is. It especially hurts grad students and undergrads, who are the most likely to contribute to any project. The 13 year old “wankers” are best left for another discussion.
Tom Edwards Says:
Hmm.
Jer Says:
You did get that that example was a joke, right?
Tom Edwards Says:
Nope. That’s what smileys are for.
Jer Says:
Yeah, I never was good at humor. I am buying Gmod 10 today!
Keefr Says:
Way to sell out, fag!
karoliean Says:
Mods = badass. When people try to sell the worthless crap theyve done with the halflife engine(s) = BULLSHIT.
Karl Marx Says:
You selfish capitalistic BASTARDS!
MUST MONEY ALWAYS BE WEASELING ITS WAY INTO EVERYTHING GOOD
AND TRUE?!
Karl Marx Says:
“Seriously, if you don’t like thye mod or don’t want to pay for it DON’T NO ONE FORCES YOU IF YOU CAN’T EVEN PAY $10 YOU SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED ON THE INTERNET.”
THE INTERNET IS THE LAST THING IN THIS SHITTY WORLD THAT DOESNT CHARGE YOU 19cents A MILE/A MINUTE. FUCK MONEY, FUCK PAYING FOR SHITTY MODS, AND FUCK SELLOUTS.
Tom Edwards Says:
It always amuses me how it’s the people who are obsessed with the stuff who take this attitude.
The Eyebeard Says:
Good on Garry. All the stupid fucks who are whining about a measly $10 can shut the fuck up. No one is going to listen to you. Garry knows this is the best way to go, and anyone with sense knows it too. If GMod remained free, it would never go outside of the box.
And at least this way, we will get wrid of all the dicks going “OMFGNOO GARY YUO FAAG U ARE GAY FOR MAKGIN ME PAYF FOR A MOD”
Ian Says:
Gmod 9 is really more expensive then Gmod 10 because for gmod 9 you need counter strike: source ,half life 2: death match ,and half life :episode 2 and gmod 10 you need just one source engine game
feargal Says:
i would buy gmod it just that i dont have a credit card so i cant. you should make it payable by lazercard or U Kash
O rly Says:
[quote comment="4315"]Guys, relax all.
The people that say Gary betrayed the community are obvios very ignorant and are 12 years old and have to suck a cock for 5 dollars.
Gary did a GREAT job, on developing Gmod.
He did things none of you 12 year old ignorant cock sucking people could do, don’t blame him for earning money.
Blame yourself for being ignorant.
You would have done the same fuckin’ thing.
Good move Garry, I support you.[/quote]
You were 12 once.Don’t insult people because of thier age,it isn’t very far off from racism – it’s still a form of discrimination.
Zat Says:
why is this such a big deal? It’s a game that costs 10 dollars. That’s as much as a good meal, but you can only eat the meal once, and you can play garry’s mod forever
as for this comment:
Karl Marx Says:
THE INTERNET IS THE LAST THING IN THIS SHITTY WORLD THAT DOESNT CHARGE YOU 19cents A MILE/A MINUTE. FUCK MONEY, FUCK PAYING FOR SHITTY MODS, AND FUCK SELLOUTS.
umm, are you stealing the internet from your neighbor or something? last time i checked there was a monthly fee from your ISP.
Grow up, things cost money, that’s the way this country works. Garry put a lot of time into this game, and now he wants a bit of money for his efforts. Who the hell are you to think it’s wrong for him to? Do you think he’s some sort of slave that should do work for your benefit and get nothing in return?
How about you go and do whatever job you have, assuming your not mooching off your parents, and do it for free, and see how long it takes you to starve to death.
iain Says:
why dont you do a demo on more games just so people dont have to risk it if the game looks good but its not and i think its good but just so people know what its like why dont you do a tempory demo or an open weekend
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